tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post1221333318909683646..comments2024-03-29T13:32:22.201+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Monbiot: Not So Green As ...CityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-22708539006524617732011-03-30T15:53:23.728+01:002011-03-30T15:53:23.728+01:00BE - yes, every such discussion should commence wi...<b>BE</b> - yes, every such discussion should commence with the green being asked the range-finder question: <i>would you actually be happy to live in a cave ?</i><br /> <br /><b>Sackers</b> - that chart is interesting, but a bit too <i>a priori</i> in nature: I'd say demand (for a given commodity) goes to zero not because of 'the end of the world' but because of substitution - <i>the stone age didn't end through a shortage of stone</i> etc<br /><br /><b>James</b>, you old cynic, you<br /><br /><b>Mr W</b> - I'd say you have every right to chalk one up on Page. I notice today that Clegg is taking the opportunity to pour some cold water of his own (sorry, couldn't resist it) on the UK new nuke programme. This, along with several other awkward implications of Fukushima, and uncertainty over the viability of CCS, leaves Huhne's plans a bit up in the air ...<br /><br />thank Heaven for shale gas, eh ?<br /><br />I think I shall be posting on this shortlyNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-52986913222986045912011-03-30T14:18:28.907+01:002011-03-30T14:18:28.907+01:00While we are talking about techno-journalists, not...While we are talking about techno-journalists, notice how Lewis Page has completely shut up, over at The Register, about "Fukushima scaremongers" this week.<br /><br />I don't generally like to rub it in, but the "Fukushima is a triumph for nuke power: Build more reactors now!" type stories were just so wildly wrong, they will forever damage his credibility. He was predicting all the Fukushima reactors would be repaired and running again after a while!<br /><br />Also notice how professional magazines like <a href="http://www.neimagazine.com/newsMenu.asp?sectionCode=132&st=&nt=" rel="nofollow">Nuclear Engineering International</a> stopped reporting Fukushima on March 23. Looks a bit like the industry has decided it is best to downplay it as much as they are able. Or maybe the nuclear PR types are just in total shock.rwendlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861901317813829419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-16934745831215011292011-03-29T23:30:19.385+01:002011-03-29T23:30:19.385+01:00Well, there must be an optimal position out there ...Well, there must be an optimal position out there somewhere. Personally I'm quite in favour of free trade, as I guess most of us are round here (with a little stash of beans in reserve - and some gold ...)<br /><br />Free trade - I've heard the word before. didn't we have that some decades ago?James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-83315678662454087472011-03-29T14:09:18.125+01:002011-03-29T14:09:18.125+01:00I approach it from several points:
Principally (a...I approach it from several points:<br /><br />Principally (and which you've touched on):<br /><br />1. Pharoah's dream - the seven fat kine and the seven lean<br /><br />... but slso:<br /><br />2. Energy inefficiency<br /><br />... and:<br /><br />3. Destructive feedback cycles in pricing resource consumption - see Charles Hugh Smith's graph here:<br /><br />http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.oftwominds.com/photos07/paradox-of-plenty.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.oftwominds.com/blog5-07.html&usg=__vTHnKyYrDoy5P6mRMGuWtlkl-yw=&h=535&w=545&sz=14&hl=en&start=43&sig2=_OuMBMo5DCl4fIZPLC4juw&zoom=1&tbnid=HOAoP3_NxkiMWM:&tbnh=147&tbnw=150&ei=GdmRTYLrDMvp4wasgty-Ag&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcharles%2Bhugh%2Bsmith%2Bresources%2B2011%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rlz%3D1R2ADBS_en%26biw%3D1019%26bih%3D635%26tbas%3D0%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=257&oei=ENmRTeLIDIbNhAeus-WPDw&page=4&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:43&tx=57&ty=59Sackersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284329249862764601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46923790777232560762011-03-29T11:07:59.043+01:002011-03-29T11:07:59.043+01:00Simple. The greens don't like our brick kilns...Simple. The greens don't like our brick kilns, blast furnaces and advanced industrial processes. Their idea of Utopia is a world population small enough for everyone to have a small strip of communal land to work. They hanker for the post-plague era where the population was so small that there was land to spare. The one time I had any respect for Ed Miliband was when he stood up to some Green Loony on Newsnight who said that air travel should be banned. Miliband said something along the lines of "do you really expect that to be popular?".Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.com