tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post3312562549608682764..comments2024-03-28T22:45:51.014+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Shale and the Price of GasCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-23930769461961650772013-07-20T12:08:43.308+01:002013-07-20T12:08:43.308+01:00great topic "" When push comes to shove,...great topic "" When push comes to shove, people really don't understand markets very well. Perusing the increasingly lively meeja coverage of putative shale gas in the UK, we find people who say shale discoveries will bring down the price of gas, and seemingly even more who say it won't - including, remarkably enough, the shale gas lobby itself. Wishing, I suppose, to be cautious in their claims, some of them say the effect will be minimal. ""Agence communicationhttp://www.salisoft.manoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-52939211378940033762013-07-17T15:32:31.832+01:002013-07-17T15:32:31.832+01:00c'est l'une des grandes et très intéressan...c'est l'une des grandes et très intéressant articles que j'ai lu .......... Je trouve qu'il est utile et parfait, car il peut résoudre tant de problèmes qui nous arrivent ...... quand je lis, je reçois le message et je sais que l'élément clé qui va me donner une bonne solution ..... donc merci beaucoup pour cet article est très grand ...... et très intéressant ..... à partager avec nous, c'est comme un honneur de vous ........ merci beaucoup ...creation site webhttp://www.salisoft.manoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-60750323203777397132013-07-17T15:30:36.239+01:002013-07-17T15:30:36.239+01:00interesting to read that """ When p...interesting to read that """ When push comes to shove, people really don't understand markets very well. Perusing the increasingly lively meeja coverage of putative shale gas in the UK, we find people who say shale discoveries will bring down the price of gas, and seemingly even more who say it won't - including, remarkably enough, the shale gas lobby itself. Wishing, I suppose, to be cautious in their claims, some of them say the effect will be minimal. "" cours informatiquehttp://www.exercicegratuit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-76457449092976308052013-07-09T12:15:56.992+01:002013-07-09T12:15:56.992+01:00this is great """ US gas prices hav...this is great """ US gas prices have been absolutely trashed by substantial amounts of shale gas, and have stayed low despite warnings for several years that this can't go on. Of course, as yet they are only able to export very small amounts of the net North American surplus (the US is still a net importer, from Canada). "" web marochttp://www.salisoft.manoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-79375251723935077542013-07-09T12:09:15.701+01:002013-07-09T12:09:15.701+01:00this is really amaizing "" Some PR he is...this is really amaizing "" Some PR he is, eh? At least he didn't say prices would go up, though we may be sure that in due course someone will - the whole renewables policy is a massive bet on this. The argument seems to be that under EU trading laws we'll be 'forced' to sell it to the wretched continentals, (read: they'll offer to buy it, and if the price is right we'll sell it !), thus neutralising any tendency to lower UK prices. (Even Peter Lilley seems to be willing to concede this.)""" assurance autohttp://www.assurancesinfo.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-65219545744024202452013-06-20T14:11:08.312+01:002013-06-20T14:11:08.312+01:00@Graeme That's not entirely true :) I would sa...@Graeme That's not entirely true :) I would say that shale gas is one of the reasons for this effect. My example shows that extraction helps to become more independent from foreign gas suppliers. And this is one of the reasons why gas prices in US dropped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-27933510735046489462013-06-20T12:54:28.777+01:002013-06-20T12:54:28.777+01:00it would have to be very much cheaper (the US situ...it would have to be <i>very</i> much cheaper (the US situation has been turned around by gas-prices falling 70%); and to envisage that happening here as a result of indigenous shale-gas before the end of the decade is a real stretch<br /><br />what's more likely is that global energy prices soften, but more so in Europe than Asia in the first instance - we are more plugged in to gas infrastructure - tipping things ever so slightly back our way until the Chinese + Indians manage to build large-scale pipeline import facilities<br /><br />also, if (if) shale gas is found in decent quantities, British manufacturing + civil engineering will benefit from the development work: we know how to do this stuff<br /><br />and (as Peter Lilley pointed out) even if UK gas prices don't go down, our gas <i>costs</i> will, so the Exchequer will benefitNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-88275469856702011182013-06-20T11:00:44.540+01:002013-06-20T11:00:44.540+01:00ND, do you see this cheaper energy making British ...ND, do you see this cheaper energy making British industry more competitive?Sackersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284329249862764601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-74790814860956634452013-06-19T15:36:47.765+01:002013-06-19T15:36:47.765+01:00I can predict that prices may go up or down or rem...I can predict that prices may go up or down or remain more or less the same. So there.Demetriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198549581667363991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-52294861701258632252013-06-19T15:14:05.760+01:002013-06-19T15:14:05.760+01:00Anon @12.55 I think the US case is not the only ou...Anon @12.55 I think the US case is not the only outcome. Legislation stops them from selling abroad. So the effect is not a 'given' of shale production. Graemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-49983468680482326722013-06-19T14:26:24.387+01:002013-06-19T14:26:24.387+01:00I'm sure before long we will find out that the...I'm sure before long we will find out that the Fruitcake fae Kirkcaldy gave away our mineral/gas rights to the EU when he signed that treaty in a cupboard in Lisbon.<br />No wonder they won't let him have the light on.<br />What with all those added clauses, one of which will come home to roost before the first shale gas is extracted.Barnacle Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17257546424880537005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-47976847118256775652013-06-19T12:55:02.102+01:002013-06-19T12:55:02.102+01:00If we talk about gas prices, the good example is U...If we talk about gas prices, the good example is US where over 10 years prices have decreased even to $3 per MMBtu thanks to shale gas extraction. <a href="http://blog.pulawy.com/en/united-shales-of-america" rel="nofollow">here</a> is more info on thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-58178371880546402552013-06-19T10:18:44.199+01:002013-06-19T10:18:44.199+01:00Whatever happens, the gubbinmint will ensure that ...Whatever happens, the gubbinmint will ensure that we are screwed, I am sure. After all, we are now little more than ATMs for ever bigger and bigger government.<br /><br />All your money is ours, says the gubbinmint.Elby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.com