tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post4728395516851306889..comments2024-03-28T09:55:42.123+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Parliament to vote for war against EurasiaCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-83783953229010640152014-12-11T07:21:42.906+00:002014-12-11T07:21:42.906+00:00All the contents you mentioned in post is too good...All the contents you mentioned in post is too good and can be very useful. I will keep it in mind, thanks for sharing the information keep updating, looking forward for more posts.Thanks<br /><a href="http://www.italianfoodquiz.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.italianfoodquiz.org</a> | <br><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-78500135045227090722014-11-29T09:30:56.240+00:002014-11-29T09:30:56.240+00:00This is really a nice and informative, containing ...This is really a nice and informative, containing all information and also has a great impact on the new technology. Thanks for sharing it<br /><a href="http://www.thetoptiermontana.com" rel="nofollow">thetoptiermontana.com</a> | <br><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14072982761272695182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-21528025978500428412014-11-21T07:44:55.656+00:002014-11-21T07:44:55.656+00:00Thanks a lot very much for the high quality and re...Thanks a lot very much for the high quality and results-oriented help. I won’t think twice to endorse your blog post to anybody who wants and needs support about this area.<br /><a href="http://www.dollhousesd.com" rel="nofollow">dollhousesd.com</a> | <br><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-13494566680886265192014-09-28T11:59:52.216+01:002014-09-28T11:59:52.216+01:00Yes, but north Africa and middle east was not part...Yes, but north Africa and middle east was not part of Eurasia or Eastasia, that was the bit which all three powers fought over.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-47100559175914236452014-09-27T17:39:34.282+01:002014-09-27T17:39:34.282+01:00BE - from a military perspective, given the US inv...BE - from a military perspective, given the US involvement an extra six planes are neither here nor there. We're there to "broaden the alliance". There was no need to bring back Parliament on a Friday - but how convenient for all three parties - and Any Questions moved from Rotherham (would have been lively) to London so that the MPs on the panel could attend. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-75204126667957813932014-09-27T15:55:19.817+01:002014-09-27T15:55:19.817+01:00Two or three MPs and a Labour majority. Half a han...Two or three MPs and a Labour majority. Half a hand clap for the twat party.<br /><br />In the old days they would have had the balls to challenge for the leadership.BEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-18047826595352915052014-09-27T15:16:29.618+01:002014-09-27T15:16:29.618+01:00@BE: " It would be funny if it was not so sad...@BE: " It would be funny if it was not so sad"<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29394697<br /><br />Something is happening...Timbo614https://www.blogger.com/profile/14671168026195402267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-19769441165649284832014-09-27T13:55:33.083+01:002014-09-27T13:55:33.083+01:00Loling at the idea of Assad being a leader of stab...Loling at the idea of Assad being a leader of stability. Was definitely true when I was lucky enough to visit Syria. A few years past that now, I suggest.<br /><br />As for paranoid UKIPers, get some perspective. The parliamentary debate had to wait until after the Scots referendum for obvious reasons. Parliament had been recalled during Labour's or the Tories' conferences, do you suppose an adult debate would have been possible, making war a party political issue?<br /><br />Perhaps the debate should have been delayed until after the MRLP's conference too, and the Greens' and Plaid Cymru.<br /><br />One thing that UKIPers seem to share is this idea that they are going to form the next administration. It would be funny if it was not so sad. Try stepping away from the blog comments section.BEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-54166156426708292522014-09-27T09:25:09.534+01:002014-09-27T09:25:09.534+01:00@laban
I was not, thanks.
Nothing changes.@laban<br /><br />I was not, thanks.<br />Nothing changes.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311993288675111834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-66295497616244566152014-09-26T22:39:34.019+01:002014-09-26T22:39:34.019+01:00It's no good letting them all unite and form s...It's no good letting them all unite and form some kind of Islamic superpower, or 'caliphate'.<br /><br />Never-ending war it is then.Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37737374822549448022014-09-26T22:21:49.490+01:002014-09-26T22:21:49.490+01:00Andrew - are you familiar with Kipling's poem ...Andrew - are you familiar with Kipling's poem on the topic you raised?<br /><br />http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2006/08/arithmetic-on-frontier.htmlLabanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-38787207102232888512014-09-26T22:14:26.123+01:002014-09-26T22:14:26.123+01:00Forgot to say - it doesn't matter a hoot to th...Forgot to say - it doesn't matter a hoot to the big ME picture whether we send six Tornados next week or the week after - but it matters a lot to Cameron to get UKIP off the headlines. <br /><br />Dirty game, politics - though a lot cleaner here than in most countries. I'd still keep flying to a minimum were I Farage, and always have an escort while driving. Look at what happened to that Austrian chap (Haider?) when he took a long drive alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-64813312478014448902014-09-26T22:06:33.569+01:002014-09-26T22:06:33.569+01:00What's scary is that Galloway sounds more sens...What's scary is that Galloway sounds more sensible than 90% of the Commons:<br /><br />a) the people we want to bomb now are the people we armed and trained, and wanted to fight alongside only a year ago<br /><br />b) we have six jets out there, Saudi Arabia have several hundred - why aren't they doing it if they care so much?<br /><br />c) because Saudi money is funding the Syrian opposition - including ISIS and<br /><br />d) if we really cared about democracy in the Middle East, why aren't we trying to overthrow the House Of Saud rather than Assad?<br /><br /><br />I pray we keep out of Syria - my fears being that the end-game there is still to remove Assad as part of encircling Iran. Bastard though he be, it's Assad or anarchy and mass ethno-religious cleansing/slaughter in Syria. If we cared for the people there, we'd be offering him two squadrons.<br /><br />PS - if Germany are really arming and training 16,000 Kurds, Turkey will be watching closely. It's a Grand Festival Of Unintended Consequences! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-63787682531294696762014-09-26T21:33:22.367+01:002014-09-26T21:33:22.367+01:00Sinik, ND
The Kurds, oh dear.
The Kurds have bee...Sinik, ND<br /><br />The Kurds, oh dear.<br /><br />The Kurds have been shfated by the Iraqi's for decades. They want their own country. This doe snot consist of the bits IS are in posession thereof. They will take the training and then defend their mountainous region to the hilt. Adopt the Syrian Kurds and then think about whether to pick on Iran or Turkey. <br /><br />They are utterly corrupt, the Talabani family and the Bazani families that run the show are typical middle eatern familial potentates. A lesser version of Assad.<br /><br />Another large strategic own goal by the West.CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-86160492433332692152014-09-26T20:13:20.441+01:002014-09-26T20:13:20.441+01:00maybe it is the modern times, but it seems that li...maybe it is the modern times, but it seems that life has become both <br />- very expensive (in terms of what it costs the west to kill terrorists) <br />and <br />- very cheap (in terms of what it costs the terrorists to kill westerners) andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311993288675111834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37409532821210084792014-09-26T19:44:19.683+01:002014-09-26T19:44:19.683+01:00I am inclined to Mr Sinik's view (no cynic, he...I am inclined to Mr Sinik's view (no cynic, he)<br /><br />the Kurds, along with several other regional forces, have good and disciplined fighting traditions<br /><br />[ the performance of Iraqi regulars has been a disgrace: theirs is a martial nation, and their fathers, heavily outnumbered, fought Iran to a standstill in the early 1980's, with strong tactical and strategic leadership - another post for another time - whatever we think of Saddam he had some excellent generals ]<br /><br />and as I've <a href="http://www.cityunslicker.co.uk/2014/08/air-war-in-iraqi-desert.html" rel="nofollow">argued here before</a>, airpower deprives ISIL of the ability to concentrate and advance: there is nowhere to hide except skulking in towns, trust me on this one<br /><br />in the desert, wars of conquest rely ultimately on concentration and maneouvre: you can wax lyrical about Stirling and T.E.Lawrence, but their pin-prick tactics ultimately had to give way to the great concentrated thrusts of Montgomery and Allenby respectively<br /><br />unlike the jungle (urban or botanical) there is no concept of sustained guerrilla ops in the desert if your aim is territorial<br /><br />the great shame here is that the Turks, for their own sovereign reasons, don't seem to have a dog in this fight: they would cut through 'ISIL territory' like a fly-swat through the airNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-52963401993844910682014-09-26T19:15:26.853+01:002014-09-26T19:15:26.853+01:00"no chance of Kurdish or Iraqi forces really ..."no chance of Kurdish or Iraqi forces really being capable of offensive duties"<br /><br />Really? Germany is currently training 16,000 Kurd, who are rapidly being armed to the teeth. I suspect that this will cause other problems futher down the road, but in the shorterm it seems to me that a properly trained force in a life-and-death fight for its own territory with the ability to call in Western air-strikes at will stands a good chance. The opposition consists of 31,000 irregulars, many of whom have no training or experience of battle whatsoever.Siniknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-27653629464850162242014-09-26T17:24:56.394+01:002014-09-26T17:24:56.394+01:00Eurasia - I always thought they were a shit band t...Eurasia - I always thought they were a shit band too, but I think going to war with them is a bit strong. Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-24667691664720021462014-09-26T15:46:05.385+01:002014-09-26T15:46:05.385+01:00@BE: "They" are the (as yet unrecognised...@BE: "They" are the (as yet unrecognised) "Caliphate" and whatever land/parts of countries they claim as theirs.<br /><br />I don't actually think we have to "declare war" on a particular country. But suggest we put the country on a "war footing" I think is the expression.<br /><br />"My MP tweeted that she was popping out of the debate to a Macmillan coffee morning. Not quite sure what to make of that."<br /><br />She is definitely NOT taking this threat seriously, that's exactly the behaviour from MPs that I am talking about. They don't get it yet!<br />Timbo614https://www.blogger.com/profile/14671168026195402267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-60236583336652484252014-09-26T15:27:53.837+01:002014-09-26T15:27:53.837+01:00Hmmm. Tornado flying at circa £30,000/hr dropping ...Hmmm. Tornado flying at circa £30,000/hr dropping storm shadow missiles at £1million/bang. Very expensive gesture politics if you ask me.Sebastian Weetabixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-6575999336046919882014-09-26T14:45:02.123+01:002014-09-26T14:45:02.123+01:00Who are "they" in this case though Timbo...Who are "they" in this case though Timbo? <br /><br />People don't depart on flights to ISISland! Or are you proposing a formal war against Syria and Iraq?<br /><br />My MP tweeted that she was popping out of the debate to a Macmillan coffee morning. Not quite sure what to make of that.BEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-6251322582087872892014-09-26T14:01:47.556+01:002014-09-26T14:01:47.556+01:00Set up a home guard, Timbo. (As you can see, I'...Set up a home guard, Timbo. (As you can see, I've enlisted already.)Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-34040070346849797842014-09-26T13:23:27.967+01:002014-09-26T13:23:27.967+01:00My take is more serious, I think we should declare...My take is more serious, I think we should declare that the acts of IS(IS) are acts of war and therefore we are actually at war with them and their "allies".<br /><br />We can then stop pussyfooting around with every arriving/leaving person that decides to fight with our enemies, or anyone promoting that people do that or anyone promoting the values of our enemies over ours.<br />They should be imprisoned as prisoners-of-war and detained until we decide the war is over (or it actually is). <br /><br />We deploy armed troops to our ports and to patrol borders.<br /><br />But we do not actually go there to bomb/fight them we just sit in our island fortress and defend it from this particular part of the world and its 'soldiers', as we have done in the past.<br /><br />That would actually be taking the problem seriously. For IS(IS) and it's allies it is already a war...<br />Timbo614https://www.blogger.com/profile/14671168026195402267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-34419839216844049752014-09-26T13:19:16.143+01:002014-09-26T13:19:16.143+01:00Jan - 72 virgins and the opportunity to decapitate...Jan - 72 virgins and the opportunity to decapitate as many infidels as they like. <br /><br />----<br /><br />Air strikes won't work entirely and it doesn't matter that they won't work. I would like us to show solidarity with the Americans whilst putting the minimum amount of our skin in the game. <br /><br />We do, after all, live under their military umbrella and owe them, whether we like it or not. <br /><br />There are 'our' people committing attrocities in Iraq. There are our people being decapitated by IS. <br /><br />Our country did participate fully in the destabilisation of the ME. We have some obligation to try to put things right - though we have a terrible record for ballsing things up. Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-35328039461130342852014-09-26T13:08:37.228+01:002014-09-26T13:08:37.228+01:00Jan - $10,000 a month, cash, courtesty of Qataris ...Jan - $10,000 a month, cash, courtesty of Qataris and Saudi's - who themselves are riven between factions who support IS and those that are on board with the Coalition. CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.com