tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post5142724291995508961..comments2024-03-28T09:55:42.123+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: John Prescott's top fifty. {3}CityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-23679645266514702562009-01-31T04:34:00.000+00:002009-01-31T04:34:00.000+00:00One of Prescotts first moves was to " Abolish this...One of Prescotts first moves was to <BR/>" Abolish this pointless Tory Quango " and then set it up again as the re-named Connecting For Health which is still nowhere near completion, is massively over budget and won't work anyway.<BR/>Nil points.bannedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02406037760273820029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-85987296787509578822009-01-31T00:00:00.000+00:002009-01-31T00:00:00.000+00:00I'm going to wait until you've had all 50 before I...I'm going to wait until you've had all 50 before I comment, and then only on what you claim are positives.<BR/><BR/>You've given a few victory's there that I would disagree with, later.Houdinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02299827686189026014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-77046886157419073072009-01-30T17:36:00.000+00:002009-01-30T17:36:00.000+00:00I think what one needs to remember as well, is tha...I think what one needs to remember as well, is that Nulab brought about fifty new gimmicks every year. Most of them fell by the wayside. Look at all the things they DON'T mention.Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-56930459810961973582009-01-30T16:40:00.000+00:002009-01-30T16:40:00.000+00:00DandelionGood point. A 18 year old gets £4.77a 21 ...Dandelion<BR/>Good point. <BR/>A 18 year old gets £4.77<BR/>a 21 Y/o £5.37<BR/><BR/>Part of the problem is the oft reported "Benefits lowest paid" has a knock on all the way up.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-65800306077029095032009-01-30T14:33:00.000+00:002009-01-30T14:33:00.000+00:00Nice post - but the picture!Did you have to?Nice post - but the picture!<BR/>Did you have to?JPThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00796856414981086841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-88784652514162790252009-01-30T13:56:00.000+00:002009-01-30T13:56:00.000+00:00"As I said in comments of post 1 of "John's achiev..."As I said in comments of post 1 of "John's achievements" in many areas of the country in 1997 young people were working for £2.00 - £2.50 without any complaints."<BR/>That was 12 years ago! If you use the year-on-year RPI values as a measure of inflation a 1997 £2.50 is equivalent to £3.51 today. The minimum wage for 16-17 year olds is £3.53. Two pence difference is hardly a reason for businesses to feel hard-done by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-30071419812267467412009-01-30T13:18:00.000+00:002009-01-30T13:18:00.000+00:00BE. As I said, i agree with your views on minimum ...BE. <BR/>As I said, i agree with your views on minimum wage. It was a political decision rather than an economic one. I can give you legion examples of small firms who pay under minimum wage for cash, to young workers, which benefits both. <BR/> However, as I have said, many people I am in contact with support minimum wage, point to its benefits in equality, and setting a minimum amount for labour.<BR/>As I said in comments of post 1 of "John's achievements" in many areas of the country in 1997 young people were working for £2.00 - £2.50 without any complaints.<BR/><BR/>Anon.Welcome<BR/>on Emissions. Erm not saying that targets are being met. Don't agree with Prezza on that one.<BR/>On teachers, you may well be right. I thought a part credit for stabilising the profession, getting an awful lot of teachers trained. Under Mrs T teachers reign were a sort of arm of militant. A such there was a policy of keeping wages down to encourage them to leave. That led to an awful neglect of teaching. The civil war rumbles on but is more "troubles2 than open warfare. Doesn't that deserve some recognition? SATS, although a cock-up, did at least bring some testing and accountability.<BR/>And i was being pretty generous in interpretaition of a success.<BR/>Wait till you see the next 10!<BR/><BR/>BSS.<BR/>All for equal rights and entitlements. Not for 100% compliance with regulation for the sake of the regulation. Am meeting a disabled access officer at a listed building site in 1/2 hour.<BR/>I foresee all sorts of mad impossible requests for a ramp to be affixed to a Norman Hamstone exterior and an archway widening. It depends on the officer..some are reasonable, some are letter of the law.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-86940751560374766472009-01-30T11:12:00.000+00:002009-01-30T11:12:00.000+00:00The DRC was desperately needed but typically about...The DRC was desperately needed but typically about as helpful as a chocolate teapot. There is a dire need for disabled people to be given equal rights in the UK (last I checked the UK still hadn't ratified the UN treaty for equality for disabled people as politicians were getting het up about what exceptions they wanted to make) <BR/>The reason the DRC wasn't much use was because of the way the legislation was written (isn't that a theme of this govt?) which meant the DRC could offer advice, but unlike other minority groups, the DRC cannot act for an individual, but only provide the information that person wanted to tackle the discrimination. Most disabled people are too busy trying to get through life to have the time, resources or ability to take responsibility for what is essentially a civil action themselves. Compare that with say racial or sex discrimination and the failure of the DRC is obvious. <BR/>BGBenefitScroungingScumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-36789910111424046132009-01-30T11:09:00.000+00:002009-01-30T11:09:00.000+00:00No 25.Assumes Kyoto to be logical, and not part of...No 25.<BR/>Assumes Kyoto to be logical, and not part of a new global initiative for a new method of control and taxation.<BR/>The globe is actually cooling if you bother to check properly.<BR/><BR/>So we failed.<BR/>Good!<BR/><BR/>No 27.<BR/>More teachers.<BR/><BR/>Well, ahem, are we to assume that they are teaching as productively as before, instead of more social engineering PC bullshit from central command?<BR/><BR/>How can you give credit until teaching standards are measured honestly.<BR/>And standards measured honestly depends on your view of the direction that this filthy fabian government is pushing OUR society, since they have decided to politicise every damn thing.<BR/><BR/>I guess that gives you just the merest hint of my views. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-41365765355706331082009-01-30T10:55:00.000+00:002009-01-30T10:55:00.000+00:00take it as a victoryHow are you deciding on the vi...<I>take it as a victory</I><BR/><BR/>How are you deciding on the victories? I agree with David that the minimum wage has effectively priced a huge number of people out of jobs (why would an employer take on someone to do an unskilled job at such a high wage?). Surely sweeping the floor for £2 an hour is better than sitting on your arse eating crisps and watching Trisha?<BR/><BR/>The min wage also, as David says, means that work experience and similar "trial" jobs simply won't be created.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-75411985130322658292009-01-30T10:37:00.000+00:002009-01-30T10:37:00.000+00:00I agree. But at a conference I was at a few weeks ...I agree. But at a conference I was at a few weeks ago it was widely seen as ending inequality in wages and ruthless exploitation by employers.<BR/>If you look at JP {1} post in the comments and see the response to min wageBill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-31567916544057303192009-01-30T09:57:00.000+00:002009-01-30T09:57:00.000+00:00Actually the minimum wage is one of the most perni...Actually the minimum wage is one of the most pernicious examples of intervention in free markets. It creates a disincentive for employers to "take a chance" with someone young, inexperienced, older, or from some other minority.DavidNclhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01110363165024627157noreply@blogger.com