tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post5382550619159754393..comments2024-03-18T16:33:31.633+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: May calls General Election for 8th JuneCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-40394995370102578142017-04-20T21:12:37.113+01:002017-04-20T21:12:37.113+01:00rot, root, route, route ...
it's all thererot, root, route, route ...<br /><br />it's all thereNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-17738459386675933022017-04-20T13:41:06.592+01:002017-04-20T13:41:06.592+01:00Yes, you are right. Clearly schools do not teach t...Yes, you are right. Clearly schools do not teach the difference between root and route. I would want a rout of bad teachers, personally. ;-)Blue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-2019266511551823122017-04-20T11:04:15.012+01:002017-04-20T11:04:15.012+01:00Blue, lets hope it's a landslide. I think all ...Blue, lets hope it's a landslide. I think all those incumbents have suddenly realized that with the European scapegoat gasping it's last breath, they will now be expected to do the job they have been paid for.<br />If May wants a real legacy, she needs to route out the communists in the educational system. There's a distinct voting tendency between the age groups and if she doesn't stop the rot, Corbyns views will be classed as far rightSuffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-25736378159847354292017-04-19T15:40:51.894+01:002017-04-19T15:40:51.894+01:00Coral have just given me 20/1 on McDonnell for nex...Coral have just given me 20/1 on McDonnell for next Labour leader. If ND is right (for once) that's a nice round £100 in my pocket :)Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-23966730324842729382017-04-19T13:33:32.361+01:002017-04-19T13:33:32.361+01:00Loads of sitting Labour MPs are not standing again...Loads of sitting Labour MPs are not standing again. As the Beeb points out, an incumbent has a better chance of surviving and landslide. Also, the replacement candidates are more likely to reflect the current leadership's worldview.<br /><br />This could be a bloodbath.<br /><br />Remember when Thatcher was asked what her proudest achievement was, she said "New Labour". May's proudest achievement may be to reduce the Labour party to a rump McDonnell vehicle.<br /><br />This is going to be a win, win, win, win for the country.Blue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-44522202550125859792017-04-19T13:13:28.100+01:002017-04-19T13:13:28.100+01:00If the result of the election is that the remainin...If the result of the election is that the remaining Blairites (who are looking more and more out of step) then good. If they are replaced by Conservatives then then that's even better. Even JC would be pleased with that result.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46988899666834404882017-04-19T11:35:35.386+01:002017-04-19T11:35:35.386+01:00@CU - neither would Kellner!@CU - neither would Kellner!Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-28127468666734925742017-04-19T09:29:19.928+01:002017-04-19T09:29:19.928+01:00BE - I would not pass a GCSE in Psephology. Happy ...BE - I would not pass a GCSE in Psephology. Happy to admit that!CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-33146483930328554392017-04-19T09:15:07.184+01:002017-04-19T09:15:07.184+01:00DTP
With the benefit of hindsight some (not me) t...DTP<br /><br />With the benefit of hindsight some (not me) think Lennon/McCartney should really be McCartney ... (and some Lennon)<br /><br />Similarly<br /><br />With the benefit of hindsight Cameron/Osbourne should really be something we just do not talk about anymore.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311993288675111834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-59643768863625137952017-04-19T06:46:41.080+01:002017-04-19T06:46:41.080+01:00A semi-final thought if this election turns out as...A semi-final thought if this election turns out as predicted; it really has blown to smithereens Osborne's legacy and his strategic political ability. If anything, it makes him look like a total chump.Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-36162212804811982352017-04-18T23:24:06.051+01:002017-04-18T23:24:06.051+01:00Charlie - There wouldn't be an election had Re...Charlie - There wouldn't be an election had Remain accepted the bloody result in the first place. Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-23793272482676737402017-04-18T22:17:15.707+01:002017-04-18T22:17:15.707+01:00Watching the ten o'clock news and all the &quo...Watching the ten o'clock news and all the "hard Brexit" nonsense, you'd think that nobody voted Leave last year and that May has called a coup rather than an election.<br /><br />BBC going with a "May has broken her no-election promise" line, which doesn't sit particularly well with their previous "May is unelected" line. Anyone would think Labour's low support is a temporary blip that May is exploiting, rather than a terminal decline thanks to infiltration by communists.Charlienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-14042443227906300102017-04-18T22:07:02.476+01:002017-04-18T22:07:02.476+01:00Anon 9.49 - Why are they STILL back-benchers ?Anon 9.49 - Why are they STILL back-benchers ?Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-43096308024254427352017-04-18T21:49:10.281+01:002017-04-18T21:49:10.281+01:00"The BBC think that with a hefty majority The..."The BBC think that with a hefty majority Theresa May can ignore her Eurosceptic back-benchers."<br /><br />BBC wishful thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46968916988688843532017-04-18T21:23:54.427+01:002017-04-18T21:23:54.427+01:00If you are basing your constitutional theory on co...If you are basing your constitutional theory on comments you read at C@W then you might be surprised when events turn out differently :)<br /><br />I seem to recall various C@W commenters wholeheartedly believing that the Supreme Court case was a Remoaner Establishment Stitch-Up. Worse, (from a personal vanity perspective) when I suggested precisely the outcome which eventually arose, C@W commenters told me I was naïve, a moron, und so weiter.<br /><br />I am pretty certain the the Lords will uphold the Salisbury Doctrine and I am pretty certain that Theresa May's strategists will be presuming the same thing. Thus, faced with the prospect of a relatively certain win her team will be drafting a document which binds both the Lords and her wilder Commons colleagues into a detailed plan for government.<br /><br />It won't be long until one of us will be proved right...! Blue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-74261933080989779952017-04-18T21:11:07.996+01:002017-04-18T21:11:07.996+01:00BE
I count myself as the unelected representative...<br />BE<br /><br />I count myself as the unelected representative of the <br />"brexit or remain, it will make little difference in the large"<br />faction (membership 1).<br /><br />As you wrote that post (1.21pm) and did not say 'this is tosh' etc in the post, I jumped to the conclusion that you agreed, at least to some extent, with what you wrote.<br /><br />My apologies for not reading the small print carefully enough.<br /><br />If your substantial point was that a long detailed, complex manifesto will get the house of lords to stfu:<br /><br />again, no.<br /><br />my supporting argument being all the comments above (including this one :).<br /><br />On political betting, I see nothing interesting yet other than <br /><br />lab vote percentage 25-30% @2.48:1<br />con vote percentage 45-50% @4.1:1<br /><br />andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311993288675111834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-79628127135075593502017-04-18T20:51:12.240+01:002017-04-18T20:51:12.240+01:00Not churlish, but a good observation. Indeed much ...Not churlish, but a good observation. Indeed much to the soft lefties' appalledness, the "right" won 55% of the vote in 2015. So even without the Jezza effect we might expect the Tories to capture a good chunk of that support now that UKIP have achieved their single issue.Blue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-22152250732054567422017-04-18T20:36:29.743+01:002017-04-18T20:36:29.743+01:00@BE - Ukip did do fantastically well in 2015, it&#...@BE - Ukip did do fantastically well in 2015, it's just that it didn't translate to seats. Churlish, perhaps, but important to remember.Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-43344049581920681332017-04-18T19:56:41.767+01:002017-04-18T19:56:41.767+01:00I caught a few seconds of Sky doing vox pops. They...I caught a few seconds of Sky doing vox pops. They couldn't find anyone who said they would vote Labour. Some said they were Labour supporters but that they would vote Tory to get rid of Jezza. <br /><br />In London there will be a LibDem surge. It may be enough to get them some seats or it may be enough to split the lefty vote and let Tories in.<br /><br />In the Midlands and North and maybe even Wales Labour voters may just stay at home. The polls which show a huge Tory lead are based on differenial turn out - so in the current situation they may underestimate May's lead!<br /><br />CU no offence but I am sure you thought that UKIP were going to do well in 2015 ;-)Blue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-15136926008432780082017-04-18T18:39:54.130+01:002017-04-18T18:39:54.130+01:00Having watched the first five minutes of the six o...Having watched the first five minutes of the six o'clock news, I think I'm going to have to get into a box for fifty days and come out when it's all over.<br /><br />The standard of public debate in this one is going to be at an all time low.<br /><br />BBC making out that Richmond Park is about to be repeated across the country.Charlienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-71832410143342603882017-04-18T18:26:59.497+01:002017-04-18T18:26:59.497+01:00There won't be any boundary changes for those ...There won't be any boundary changes for those who are worried. That is another can kicked well down the road. <br /><br />However, 3-figure majority for the Tories....on current terms - that is for the birds. I find it hard to see where the seats come from as Labour will still get nearly 30% of the vote when all is said and done. They won't be winning many in Scotland and the lib dems will win a handful. I guess perhaps if the lib dems split the vote for remainers then there are a few 3-way marginal that may go blue (imagine being a remainer, voting lib dem and then getting that result - heart of stone etc.). <br /><br />But I don't see where 40-odd seats come from. But what would I know, I was very surprised to see this happen at all. CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-85463007272154994002017-04-18T18:26:00.552+01:002017-04-18T18:26:00.552+01:00re DTPs fears of being shafted - BBC are reporting...re DTPs fears of being shafted - BBC are reporting that EU leaders approve of May's decision, and think that with a hefty majority May can ignore her Eurosceptic backbenchers, and negotiate the kind of deal which will make Leave voters wonder what the point of leaving was.<br /><br />We shall see. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-13120711818390726522017-04-18T18:23:16.998+01:002017-04-18T18:23:16.998+01:00Blue - OK. Blue - OK. Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-65673524831719282682017-04-18T17:45:35.311+01:002017-04-18T17:45:35.311+01:00*nor, obviously*nor, obviouslyBlue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-86366703577246268132017-04-18T17:43:02.896+01:002017-04-18T17:43:02.896+01:00Andrew I realise as the elected representative of ...Andrew I realise as the elected representative of the Remoaners on this site you have to put your case forcefully, but did you actually read my comment which you so dismissively dismissed?<br /><br />I wrote that I imagine a complex manifesto for a specific purpose. Nowhere did I write that I would really like such a thing, now did I state that such a thing would be popular in its own right. <br /><br />Perhaps you would now like to address the point I was making, rather than the non-point you responded to?<br /><br />EK stop being so paranoid! Theresa May - if she wins this snap election - will have a platform set out [presumably] largely as she has now, but with a significant difference. All Tory MPs elected on 8th June will be elected on a platform as set out as Theresa May has been setting out since she took the throne. You might have been following a bit, but to recap: we are leaving the EU. We are leaving the single market/EEA. We are taking back control of immigration policy. We are taking back our territorial and fishing waters (did you see the non-news from the Danes this morning before the election swamped the headlines?). Our farmers will be tilling British earth with British hoes. The point is that Theresa May has set out crystally clear what her platform is, and after the election there will be no excuse for Remoaner Tory MPs to go against anything in that platform. Secondarily, if she wins big then there will be little opportunity for the Ken Clarkes of the party to have an impact on the big picture.<br /><br />Contrary to your perma-fear, there has actually been no resistance by Tory MPs at all. Except Ken. <br /><br />But after the election there will be no resistance from the Lords either, because it will all be in the manifesto. (That was my earlier point which was so badly explained that even the Remoaner élite couldn't understand it.)<br /><br />I am on record as saying that Theresa is likely to win a 100+ majority. As the only C@W regular who predicted both a Tory majority and UKIP's tally in 2015 you may all defer to me on such matters if you wish ;-)<br />Blue Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556174219724957585noreply@blogger.com