tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post7091000413973337279..comments2024-03-28T04:30:21.088+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Stuart Rose is a poor choice for Remain leader, as Business people normally are for political rolesCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-32944027270938340532015-10-13T09:03:33.391+01:002015-10-13T09:03:33.391+01:00I have to agree with CU. Rose epitomises the curre...I have to agree with CU. Rose epitomises the current EU in many ways. The M&S he left is expensive, myopic to the needs of its client customers, and full of bullshit.<br /><br />Not the best choice.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-38431958275648293102015-10-13T08:50:58.352+01:002015-10-13T08:50:58.352+01:00How much did M&S shareholders lose by listenin...How much did M&S shareholders lose by listening to him and rejecting Philip Green's offer?L fairfaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12274756119129254373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-30738482744692350212015-10-12T23:42:16.378+01:002015-10-12T23:42:16.378+01:00The Left's ideology is already catered for and...The Left's ideology is already catered for and the voters already on side.<br /><br />(That's what I meant.)Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-19339987753496285812015-10-12T23:39:13.450+01:002015-10-12T23:39:13.450+01:00The point of using a business leader is not what h...The point of using a business leader is not what he says our how he says it. <br /><br />It's that it's HE who says it.<br /><br />"Business approves of the EU"<br /><br />"Business approves of mass immigration"<br /><br />The Left's ideology is already catered for and on the voters on side (in fact the EU is Leftist.) What really needs to be won over is Right thinking people.<br /><br />How do we get them ?<br /><br />There's only one way. Get business to speak to them and tell them that the EU is vital. <br /><br />No facts or figures nor grace needed. Just pure terror about jobs lost and that we'll all be forced to eat only boiled nettles and worms if we leave. <br /><br />This will only come down to two issues:<br /><br />"3 million jobs lost" Vs "We're going to be swamped"<br /><br />For my money if the cost of staying in is taking ten million more people (as it will undoubtedly mean - and more, going on past figures) then we can't afford to keep those 3 million jobs even if it is true that we could lose them. <br /><br />YES. <br /><br />The Outs need prominent business people and lots of them. The Ins have made a very clever choice. No-one believes politicians anymore.Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-27845844773202458422015-10-12T21:58:08.470+01:002015-10-12T21:58:08.470+01:00These guys have almost been self appointed too - n...These guys have almost been self appointed too - no discussion just bam, we're the leaders; not so err...democratic. Is there something about grocers being pro EU?<br /><br />It's going to have to be a relatively fact free debate as the EU now sure ain't gonna be what it's like in 5 or 10 years time and Brexit now will most likely incline further referenda from Holland, Denmark, Ireland etc so stats there are normative and assumptive too. <br /><br /> Farage hopefully will resile from leading the out campaign and just be used as a smart bomb deployed to raise spirits - this, after all is his almost singular achievement and if anyone knows how tough it's been, it's him. The outcome is more important than the man and if Jonny come latelies want to steal his glory then they can fool themselves but come VE 2 Day, we all know which unemployed geezer the paps will be doorstepping - geez, the boy's done well.<br /><br /> I likened voting to remain as voting for Hitler in that it seemed vaguely plausible at first - probably a dodgy analogy but not off the wall. Assuming the out campaign get their shit together, I think this could be a bit of a landslide. Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-86539878413803220602015-10-12T20:53:54.022+01:002015-10-12T20:53:54.022+01:00Met him a couple of times. Mrs Q was an M&S em...Met him a couple of times. Mrs Q was an M&S employee.<br />She said he organised the most motivational conference she had ever attended. {Way better than yours..she said to me..}<br /><br />That was the one they were doing for their 'change of direction.'<br />It didn't work, but it did convince a good number of the old guard M&S employees that change was necessary.<br /><br />His speech today was poor. Poor delivery. Poor message.<br />The Innies are going to need a lot more than "It will cost you £400 if we leave."<br /><br />Farage can counter that with the £150 each person already pays the EU. And the saving of £x on regulations and such. <br />Even if the £400 remained true, £8 a week to have all the eurocrats bog off forever is an easy sell.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-26006895687851323302015-10-12T20:46:51.738+01:002015-10-12T20:46:51.738+01:00Presumably, the Alan Sugar element will be all ove...Presumably, the Alan Sugar element will be all over the place before the vote, which is eighteen months away!<br /><br />I'll be seventy then, so please advise my nurse, or doctor (preferably nurse, as she'll be a cracker and will have great knockers), what the hell am I doing plonking a cross on a bit of paper, just to appease people who thought Edward Heath was right...Scrobs.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12942449871600526680noreply@blogger.com