tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post7463728734451405342..comments2024-03-28T22:45:51.014+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Another Front on the Euro-FightCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46603820901535695912011-11-01T19:57:53.361+00:002011-11-01T19:57:53.361+00:00Pretty much all consumer rights are harmonised.
S...Pretty much all consumer rights are harmonised.<br /><br />Six month rejection for faulty goods to be repaired or replaced.<br /><br />Distance selling cooling off periods (this could screw over a small mail order business).<br /><br />Doorstep cooling off periods.<br /><br />Unfair terms in consumer contracts.<br /><br />All the above are EC Directives.Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-10460823460072167242011-11-01T17:59:18.320+00:002011-11-01T17:59:18.320+00:00Alexp76 - the evil Heathian 'Humberside' w...Alexp76 - the evil Heathian 'Humberside' was abolished in 1996. The name 'Humberside' is retained by the police and used by the BBC (of course). Hull is actually in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Hull is, though, <i>administered</i> separately as a unitary authority.Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-80746045268906515132011-11-01T16:15:50.508+00:002011-11-01T16:15:50.508+00:00Sumo - thank for the weighty intervention
Alex - ...<b>Sumo</b> - thank for the weighty intervention<br /><br /><b>Alex</b> - pedantry always welcome at C@W, we like to be kept on our toes<br /><br />however, the artist in me is forced to point out that I was already going to use Humberside once in that sentence (well, in its derivative form <i>Humbug</i>) and thus on aesthetic grounds could not use it a second time<br /><br />I know Hull well, and have indeed been forced to share a railway station waiting-room with said Prescott, not an experience to lighten the journeyNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-4410745194835696212011-11-01T15:54:00.198+00:002011-11-01T15:54:00.198+00:00I agree entirely with your sentiments, and regular...I agree entirely with your sentiments, and regularly read the blog. However, the pedant in me is forced to point out that Hull is in Humberside, not South Yorkshire.Alexp76https://www.blogger.com/profile/08959600118204952164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-70610034832594034062011-11-01T14:40:56.150+00:002011-11-01T14:40:56.150+00:00"The only thing to worry about a general Euro..."The only thing to worry about a general European contract law is that it would not be done in a ‘common law’ "<br /><br />That, surely, is the crux of the matter. No surprise that civil law is the approach of choice in Russia, China and many other nations where thet state wields unmitigated power. The fact that in civil law the centralised state sets and codifies all laws and then uses agents of the state both to investigate and prosecute those believed to be guilty of crimes against the state is clearly of benefit to those that govern without the participation of the people. <br /><br />Common-law countries benefit from the independent judiciary and more importantly an independent jury that can, in flagrant disregard of the evidence put to it, declare someone innocent if they so wish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-40279511194972384962011-11-01T12:59:51.527+00:002011-11-01T12:59:51.527+00:00I do wish that people would stop banging on about ...I do wish that people would stop banging on about 'common law'. the general principles of English contract, offer, acceptance, consensus in idem and valuable consideration (let's set aside the horrors of equity and its hell creature estoppel) may very well apply to the creation of a contract but that will be subject to all kinds of statutory caveats, the limitation act, the various mad cap arbitration agreements, the unfair contract terms act, the contracts, rights of third parties act, hell even the maritime insurance act 1906 could be involved. <br /><br />And at any rate, the common law is not some happy hand shake and gentleman’s code that is somehow pure and unsullied by the messing of wonks, the common is what the Judiciary say it is by virtue of their judgments (anyone who thinks judges do not make law need only look at the history of product liability in the states in 1916 and then in the UK in 1932) and the Judiciary is a pillar of the state and, until recently, had various members sitting in parliament waving through statute. <br /><br />Harmonising legal services across Europe is surely no bad thing, greater competition and choice for consumers rather than the obligatory closed shop. At the same time changing the way law firms operate in the UK provides a good spring board for the UK to gobble up that market (just look at the huge global insurance mergers, 2 just this week). <br /><br />The only thing to worry about a general European contract law is that it would not be done in a ‘common law’ loser pays fashion and thus someone wronged would be forking out a small fortune to try to get back to some semblance of the pre contractual position.SumoKinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018901303892114091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-59662179138691827982011-11-01T11:58:01.937+00:002011-11-01T11:58:01.937+00:00This argument encapsulates everything that ius wro...This argument encapsulates everything that ius wrong about the EU from the British perspective. <br /><br />Fact is that the French and the Germans set up the EU specifically because they feared perceived Anglo-American hegemony and so that great democrat de Gaulle (ha!) colluded with some former Hitler youth members to create the EU with the goal of keeping the English speaking world nad their "foreign" ideas at bay. Common-law is one of the ideas that preferred to replace with the ideas of a former European dictator and master of the known universe known as Napolean. Meanwhile they suck up to the Chinese to sell their souls to that particular devil under the guidance of "former" Maoist Barosso. Next week it will be putting French nuclear weapons on top of ESA launchers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-24964668261037505672011-11-01T11:07:37.303+00:002011-11-01T11:07:37.303+00:00we are all agreed !
better get back to something ...we are all agreed !<br /><br />better get back to something we can fight over<br /><br />now, about the rugby ... and global warming ?Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-45866396047278432062011-11-01T09:53:24.747+00:002011-11-01T09:53:24.747+00:00Concur with all the above - There are no problems ...Concur with all the above - There are no problems selling things to mainland Europe. First started doing it in about 1988. Seems the Guardian commenters all agree on this too.<br /><br />Set out your terms, sort the logistics, be fair to your customers. Simples.Timbo614https://www.blogger.com/profile/14671168026195402267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-19725277898380585782011-11-01T09:36:54.347+00:002011-11-01T09:36:54.347+00:00I can agree with budgie.
Several small orders go t...I can agree with budgie.<br />Several small orders go to the EU every day. There are no restrictions.<br /><br />Same for world wide.<br /><br />In fact the hardest country to trade with because of the restrictions is China. <br />Very easy to import. Very hard to export.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-7651968663892494962011-11-01T09:27:43.428+00:002011-11-01T09:27:43.428+00:00Reading between the lines, that Guardian piece was...Reading between the lines, that Guardian piece wasn't exactly enthusiastic either.<br /><br />What does the US do about this btw? If you buy from another state is the vendor subject to the laws of their local state or the one the buyer is in?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15334261621479728021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-28881787068551911082011-11-01T09:16:09.357+00:002011-11-01T09:16:09.357+00:00I can confirm this is "utter bollocks". ...I can confirm this is "utter bollocks". I have repeatedly sold small quantities to the continent for 6 years.<br /><br />It's simple: I stick the stuff in a box, ring the carrier, invoice the customer in euros and, bingo, two months later I get paid; and good old BoS converts it for me.<br /><br />No more problem than selling to South Yorkshire.Budgienoreply@blogger.com