tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post8519794950393537443..comments2024-03-28T04:30:21.088+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Special Pleading Election Deluge - Police NeutralityCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-472656373652515682015-03-26T12:03:32.841+00:002015-03-26T12:03:32.841+00:00BE - I do agree, crime has fallen. When younger I ...BE - I do agree, crime has fallen. When younger I was often watching fights or having my car stolen, robbed etc. <br /><br />It was part of life.<br /><br />Now, I tend to see if anything people getting run over (cyclists in London!) and accidents. Much less real street crime.<br /><br />Even with all the immigration, which I would anecdotally would have thought would lead to more crime due to the Bablyonian <br />Condition.<br />PLius<br /><br />*I do accpet I live and work in better places now, but I travel around a lot across less salurbious dens of iniquity.CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-22195464996770435972015-03-26T10:41:25.945+00:002015-03-26T10:41:25.945+00:00I don't argue against the allegation that the ...I don't argue against the allegation that the crime figures are cooked, but I don't think that crime and antisocial behaviour is worse now than it was.<br /><br />London in the 90s was awful for streetcrime and burglary. People even good areas put bars up on their windows and me and my friends were quite often victims of petty "muggings". It was considered quite brave for women to get themselves home by public transport.<br /><br />In contrast now London feels incredibly safe, and nobody I know gives a second though to the risk of being mugged or worse on their way home at night.<br /><br />BEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-21075505793368217712015-03-26T09:36:19.642+00:002015-03-26T09:36:19.642+00:00E-K - well you make a better case than the police ...E-K - well you make a better case than the police federation!CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-41546211702853829582015-03-25T21:34:37.451+00:002015-03-25T21:34:37.451+00:00A shame.
Doubtless the cuts are deep. A friend o...A shame. <br /><br />Doubtless the cuts are deep. A friend of mine retires from the police this year on a superb package that, in no way, has he paid for - especially if he goes on for thirty or more years after retirement as my father has. <br /><br />Yes. 14% of salary was taken out but in no way does it cover the costs. <br /><br />Younger officers are not so lucky. Paid much less and unlikely to reap such good pensions. <br /><br />At a time of general liberalisation, soft punishment, cultural change, varied crime... it is worrying that policing is being cut rather than redoubled. <br /><br />I'm with Dusty on how crime is being hidden and reclassified. E-Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-2373155071142016292015-03-25T21:31:32.785+00:002015-03-25T21:31:32.785+00:00@Dustybloke - yep, I used to be an Intelligence An...@Dustybloke - yep, I used to be an Intelligence Analyst about 10 year back and the figures were nicely massaged for public consumption. As the gaffer's old mantra used to instruct 'now, Dicky, all crimes are incidents but not all incidents are crimes'.<br /><br />I think the Fed missed out the bit of 'won't somebody, for the love of God, won't somebody think of the children - they're, they're just children you bastards!'Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-83520653779373808642015-03-25T20:44:00.559+00:002015-03-25T20:44:00.559+00:00The crime figures are totally bogus. Tory and Lab...The crime figures are totally bogus. Tory and Labour have both redefined "crime" every other year so that antisocial behaviour and shoplifting, for instance, have wildly increased but are no longer crimes.<br /><br />Regional forces are encouraged to suppress recording of crimes and individual officers are reluctant to record more crimes than needed to meet their targets.<br /><br />The Old Bill are getting restive because all the constables have gone and the sergeants might have start doing some work.Dustyblokenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-78422858024062968412015-03-25T13:14:11.209+00:002015-03-25T13:14:11.209+00:00Inspector Gadget blog used to be a must read.
Th...Inspector Gadget blog used to be a must read. <br /><br />The government interference in targets and quotas , over the business of policing that the public wanted, had to be read to be believed. The politicisation of the police was scandalous. <br /><br />However, that must read blog, the comments turned into a pension and retirement site.<br />And grumble after grumble that any private sector worker accepts as a standard part of the job, sapped much sympathy for the police.<br /><br />The Police Federation .. Just the usual dinosaur union in a uniform.<br />Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-41560471611398893182015-03-25T12:57:42.549+00:002015-03-25T12:57:42.549+00:00Well as you know I used to visit the belly of the ...Well as you know I used to visit the belly of the Met beast a while back, and they don't give a stuff about anything the government does or does not do until it affects their uncredibly generous pensions, or carefully-negotiates shift-patterns.<br /><br />Remember it took the Met about 24 hours to get its riot response going? I was in a briefing on the second morning after Croydon went up in flames and officers were moaning about childcare issues as a result of extended tours.<br /><br />The police have become just another public sector bloatfest.BEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46126007331252647202015-03-25T12:29:30.242+00:002015-03-25T12:29:30.242+00:00Has any organisation fallen as far in public estee...Has any organisation fallen as far in public esteem as the police? Even our can't-win-a-battle army hasn't fallen so far.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-47613922273435152362015-03-25T12:26:59.055+00:002015-03-25T12:26:59.055+00:00"an apolitical staff association": thank..."an apolitical staff association": thank goodness they are not the conspirators and perjurers who plotted to bring down that ass Mitchell, eh? Must have been some completely different police organisation.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-16654969561026516002015-03-25T12:21:44.071+00:002015-03-25T12:21:44.071+00:00Similar argument re the fire service. Fires, and ...Similar argument re the fire service. Fires, and deaths by fires, are on a steady downward trend, since people gave up smoking in bed, installed smoke alarms and switched to oven chips instead of stove-top deep fat frying. We all understand that there needs to be provision for just in case, but surely some scope for savings?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com