tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post852573647481699198..comments2024-03-28T09:55:42.123+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Cameron on the wrong side of opinion..{continued.}CityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-21274838764910265912012-12-17T06:11:21.989+00:002012-12-17T06:11:21.989+00:00Pick fights that are popular. As long as you are ...Pick fights that are popular. As long as you are on the right side of public opinion you'll have support. <br /><br />Hardly think that's the issue, Bill. It's that he picks the false side of an argument.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-4419268542303623912012-12-17T03:05:23.153+00:002012-12-17T03:05:23.153+00:00They are all scrabbling for the centre ground.
Wh...They are all scrabbling for the centre ground.<br /><br />When they arrive there, these devils on a pinhead, they will be supported by tiny minorities.<br /><br />Even with Union support, Labour are destitute. Tory Party membership has plummeted and the Party relies on donations from big business. The LibDems are a political joke.<br /><br />So next year they will bring in taxpayer support for the three interested parties.<br /><br />They will rule forever after in some obscene coalition, leaving politicians to do what they do best; pose, preen and strut around, spouting a lot of hot air to no real purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-85740031807572457092012-12-16T12:20:47.069+00:002012-12-16T12:20:47.069+00:00If you think that UKIP would willingly merge with ...If you think that UKIP would willingly merge with the Tories, you don't know UKIP. <br /><br />UKIP = Liberals; Cameron's Tories = paternalistic statism. Liberals used in the classic UK sense not the modern American meaning.<br /><br />Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-65017499783753805222012-12-16T11:35:13.032+00:002012-12-16T11:35:13.032+00:00Very obvious strategy -
1) Encourage dour Scots t...Very obvious strategy -<br /><br />1) Encourage dour Scots to vote independence in 2014 to get shot of their 60 Labour MPs in Westminster.<br />2) Leave "scorched earth" legacy for incoming Labour in 2015<br />3) Tories merge with UKIP<br />4) Await next election (after vote of no-confidence?); with West Lothian question resolved and a right-of-centre manifesto, regain power for generations.<br /><br />Simples!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-9285032125144763282012-12-16T11:10:14.626+00:002012-12-16T11:10:14.626+00:00He's running out of time and options, and of ...He's running out of time and options, and of course constantly hamstrung by the leftwit 'deputy PM' still piping up in hope of a tax-free EU sinecure in Brussels for him and the wee wifey.<br /><br />By this time the 1st Thatcher administration was squandering North Sea oil tax revenues to paper over the cracks but still needed the 'Falklands Factor' to win the election.<br /><br />'Call me Dave' Dave has a mish-mash of daft initiatives started but not finished, broken promises on the EU and all the Boy George can offer is '5 more years' of grim, grey grinding austerity.<br /><br />Talk about fiddling while Rome burns! One term administration for sure with 50+ losses due to UKIP taking votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-28090107559365635512012-12-15T17:40:16.398+00:002012-12-15T17:40:16.398+00:00Chuck in demographics and the lack of boundary cha...Chuck in demographics and the lack of boundary changes and it's almost impossible to think how else 2015 will turn out other than a decent Labour majority. <br /><br /> I'm starting to think, assuming Cameron has a brain and wants to retain his job, that he's going to be forced to offer a referendum on the EU. I just can't see any alternative. I guess hiring Crosby is a good start and once the gay marriage thing is over he may be able to get Cammo on message but my local assoc has been decimated by this so it's not so much people switching parties but just not voting at all. <br /><br /> What's so wrong with putting party before country, Labour did it always.Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-51939425283558216632012-12-15T15:39:29.136+00:002012-12-15T15:39:29.136+00:00Being a child of Thatcher, the key lesson I learnt...Being a child of Thatcher, the key lesson I learnt was that you should ask yourself whether your money was well spent.<br /><br />Was my vote well spent on Cameron?<br /><br />...andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311993288675111834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-56144448880240299382012-12-15T14:39:15.431+00:002012-12-15T14:39:15.431+00:00Thud: Spin will win. That's the way these days...Thud: Spin will win. That's the way these days.<br /><br />Lord Blagger. Nope! Don't even start to look behind the curtain. Its a nightmare.<br />in fairness this is the first government in 30 years to even take a look at pensions. They have shed many 100,000s of votes in doing it. And it was only the very first step in the coming pension reforms. Its one of the necessary, yet deeply unpopular things they have done.<br />My gripe is with the unnecessary, and deeply unpopular things they have done.<br /><br />Jan: Exasperation rather than pi**ed off. I'm not and never was a Cameron man. And coming in, my hopes weren't high. in fact part of the disappointment is that Cameron held it all together, under great pressure, so well for the first year.<br /><br />But since then he's tripped up many, many times since then .And the good will has been spent with too little to show for it.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-27800007585632676372012-12-15T14:37:06.525+00:002012-12-15T14:37:06.525+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-3367708082166478412012-12-15T14:14:18.405+00:002012-12-15T14:14:18.405+00:00You sound more than a little p****d
off Bill and I...You sound more than a little p****d<br />off Bill and I guess plenty of other Tory MPs feel the same. I don't think it would be much different without the Lib Dems either.<br /><br />We're back to style over substance an art perfected by T Blair. Tories are crying out for someone to do something more radical a la Thatcher. <br /><br />I doubt whether the welfare changes would happen without the doggedness of Ian Duncan Smith. He seems to have done more so far than anyone else.Jannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-63976468835149149392012-12-15T13:47:41.980+00:002012-12-15T13:47:41.980+00:00Even better, for once, tell the truth,
The truth ...Even better, for once, tell the truth,<br /><br />The truth about how all your pension contributions have been pissed away, and now there it 4,700 bn of debt - just for pensions.<br /><br />So much that it can't be paid. <br /><br />Then any argument about spending a billion more change. Labour will be tagged for the debts and the welfare that has spent people's retirement.<br /><br />http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171766_263808.pdf<br /><br />Give an indication (its an underestimate) of the pensions debts.<br /><br />Linked to inflation, so no chance of printing to inflate your way out eitherLord Blaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783119146180259097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-26000623865813199082012-12-15T12:05:56.206+00:002012-12-15T12:05:56.206+00:00Seems reasonable, and that's the trouble, we s...Seems reasonable, and that's the trouble, we seem to be reason free and driven by whims and headlines.Thudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320037763190473684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-36771418981418449542012-12-15T10:45:06.368+00:002012-12-15T10:45:06.368+00:00I agree. In the role of actually being PM, he is a...I agree. In the role of actually being PM, he is as almost as good as Blair. And after the Brown embarrassment that is a relief.<br /><br />And I don't believe its all bad. Just much more than should have been expected.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-17088629319952496592012-12-15T09:48:48.731+00:002012-12-15T09:48:48.731+00:00He hasn't the team
Too right. Every time Tim...<i>He hasn't the team</i><br /><br />Too right. Every time Tim Montgomerie sends round his quiz and asks - which of these worthless individuals would you want to be the next leader of the Party? - the heart sinks. If BoJo is the Great White-haired Hope of the conservatives, I need say no more<br /><br />One problem with Cameron is that he has this truly world-class 'favourite son-in-law' act which (a) got him where he is (Tory women are archetypal suckers for that)<br />(b) makes him a very <i>presentable</i> PM - he scrubs up nicely and does those National Apologies so very well <br /><br />this has meant he didn't have to work very hard at the nitty-gritty<br /><br />however I think there are signs he can sometimes get it right & sometimes I get mildly optimistic <br /><br />(mildly optimistic post to follow)Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.com