tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post8801917324000999650..comments2024-03-28T22:45:51.014+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Ukraine & Gas: What Germany Does Next ...CityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-24350349894717384972022-04-13T21:45:43.193+01:002022-04-13T21:45:43.193+01:00I am sure there is a Russian phrase for misdirecti...I am sure there is a Russian phrase for misdirection. I think the point Wildgoose was indicating is that it is hardly a Russian only game. <br /><br />Lets take Bucha as an example, Nick Drew - are Reuters and the Pentagon being Russia disinformation agents?<br /><br />https://www.reuters.com/world/pentagon-cant-independently-confirm-atrocities-ukraines-bucha-official-says-2022-04-04/<br /><br />Talking of lies, propaganda and agenda pushing, the barrage of Ukrainian propaganda is interesting to observe. There do though seem to have been a few cock ups recently in the crafted messages to Parliaments and Assemblies.<br /><br />Telling the Israeli's that the Ukrainians were suffering was comparable to the Holocaust was not a great move. <br />https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/<br /><br />And bringing an Azov Nazi to accompany Zelensky on the speech to the Greek Parliament another misstep of outrage.<br />https://greekreporter.com/2022/04/07/greek-azov-fighter-zelensky-speech-greek-parliament/<br /><br />Talking of propaganda an agenda pushing, it is interesting to see our brain dead supply teacher of a Foreign Sec accepting at face value any claims of chemical weapons use that fit her agenda, whist even the is sceptical. <br />God help us if Andrew Neill is right and she is the next Tory leader, another disaster in the making.<br />viscnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-41975231658313066612022-04-13T14:19:59.507+01:002022-04-13T14:19:59.507+01:00no no no, that's something very specific &...no no no, that's something very specific & quite different<br /><br />no, it's a modern coinage, meaning the way in which, when faced with unpalatable facts, Russia blasts out a barrage of lies and distractions to leave the ordinary punter saying just what you said. <br /><br />I'll find it in a bit.Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-20701942208597230252022-04-13T09:53:17.084+01:002022-04-13T09:53:17.084+01:00@ Nick Drew
I believe "Maskirovka" is t...@ Nick Drew<br /><br />I believe "Maskirovka" is the word you are looking for.<br /><br />However I believe it is being applied by our own governments against us, as much as by the Russians.<br /><br />Wildgoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14884595915411975940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-3098228623742767172022-04-12T21:21:14.198+01:002022-04-12T21:21:14.198+01:00Wildgoose: "We're being lied to. Consta...<b>Wildgoose</b>: "<i>We're being lied to. Constantly. About everything.</i>"<br /><br />That, of course, is what Russia has long been encouraging everyone to believe, in order to sow fear, doubt & (on the other hand) apathy & disengagement<br /><br />the strategy has a name but I've momentarily forgotten what it isNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37866508092726466682022-04-12T11:29:45.174+01:002022-04-12T11:29:45.174+01:00> forced to sell its oil at a steep discount
Y...> forced to sell its oil at a steep discount<br /><br />Yes, I've seen that as well, (not today, but the exact same wording was used around a fortnight back). So how do we reconcile these contrasting news stories?<br /><br />Simple.<br /><br />We're being lied to.<br /><br />Constantly.<br /><br />About everything.<br />Wildgoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14884595915411975940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-28781043982457667542022-04-12T09:54:28.448+01:002022-04-12T09:54:28.448+01:00Reuters.
Today.
“India, the world's third-big...Reuters.<br />Today.<br /><br />“India, the world's third-biggest oil importer, has increased purchases of Russian crude in recent months because Moscow has been forced to sell its oil at a steep discount since invading Ukraine.”<br /><br />And has been heavily discounting since sanctions imposed. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-81364116984169393152022-04-12T09:25:25.039+01:002022-04-12T09:25:25.039+01:00> less lucrative markets in Asia and China
And...> less lucrative markets in Asia and China<br /><br />And yet only this morning I was reading that Russia is selling its hydrocarbons to Asia for 3 or 4 dollars <b>more</b> per barrel than it was getting in the West?<br /><br />And I see they are now going with the "false flag" of a so-called "chemical attack". Just like they did when Russia finally stepped in to deal with ISIS and the West acted to support ISIS by bombing Assad over a false "chemical attack" outrage.<br /><br />At what point do people finally understand that we are ruled by our very own corrupt oligarchy and that these people are most definitely not the Saints they claim to be?<br />Wildgoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14884595915411975940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-29931989266298599662022-04-12T07:29:41.536+01:002022-04-12T07:29:41.536+01:00Putin is not a subtle operator. He has cut off th...Putin is not a subtle operator. He has cut off the option of allowing the West to sell Ukraine down the river and he has failed to achieve any sane military objective. Even if he falls back behind the Crimea and Donbass, objectives he already possessed de facto he has now built up a decade or twos worth of completely unnecessary opprobrium - for nothing. He can't really be allowed to walk away scot-free however much the diplomats obfuscate. We may even feel obliged to chuck him out of Donbass and Crimea.<br /><br />Making noises about cutting off the need for Russian gas may be a useful tactic in a strategy to get rid of Putin. Russia is a one-trick pony and cutting off a couple of legs will do it no good at all. Still, the Russian people are used to rubbish government all the way back to the Tsars and are not in much of a position to oust Putin. So it will have to get pretty bad before Putin is pushed.<br /><br />Putin is well entrenched and it may be necessary to go all the way to starting construction of a gas terminal or two before his oligarchs get the message - that their poverty is a long term threat. Even so Russia does have other but less lucrative markets in Asia and China but they will be looking at the competitive position. In particular being dependant on poor-ish nations to sell one's gas and oil is not a good look. But once those gas terminals are built Russia is boxed in forever.<br /><br />Still, the game now is to make it all look good for the May Day celebrations - appearance is all.jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470816959796395467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-67082225469479857542022-04-12T07:05:49.417+01:002022-04-12T07:05:49.417+01:00... and this time it's Blighty that's forc...... and this time it's Blighty that's forced to splinter. E-Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657071992016670517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-27953501091072693762022-04-12T07:04:27.154+01:002022-04-12T07:04:27.154+01:00A reunited, armed and hungry Germany.
What's...A reunited, armed and hungry Germany. <br /><br />What's not to like ?E-Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657071992016670517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-16604984315541492142022-04-11T19:39:13.154+01:002022-04-11T19:39:13.154+01:00@ all the deep state operatives on any number of s...@ <i>all the deep state operatives on any number of supposedly free market blogs</i><br /><br />Name names, *anon*!<br /><br />Oh, ... Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37159106170550546102022-04-11T19:25:25.825+01:002022-04-11T19:25:25.825+01:00One thing the Russian invasion of Ukraine has expo...One thing the Russian invasion of Ukraine has exposed, all the deep state operatives on any number of supposedly free market blogs. That is interesting.<br /><br />This is too. Ukraine approves strategy to retake Crimea, risking all out war with Russia. <a href="https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/20/ukra-m20.html?fbclid=IwAR3Gi9MI3JP_rgkmRlAxwUaVJy4MQ_4-PP98ochznFoE_pg8DqvwZiYRbVM" rel="nofollow">March 2021</a>.<br /><br />Well, Ukraine might have been well served if it had taken on a little less risk.<br /><br />Then only two months later we have the British <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57589366?fbclid=IwAR1959Fp3yQ6RpqpkeASRnveqssva5MiNz3QjqaJsAlGltDvB8rXWJUHPsg" rel="nofollow">meddling</a> in affairs that don't concern them.<br /><br />What a surprise!<br /><br />Then we have the utter pillock Ben Wallace, unable to stop his mouth running. Fer christ sake - actually for the sake of the poor bastards sent out on his instructions. Ben, just keep your mouth shut, you self important little berk! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-76332658404741959902022-04-11T16:24:13.331+01:002022-04-11T16:24:13.331+01:00If there were some way that Russia could take Pari...If there were some way that Russia could take Paris, Berlin, and Brussels without harming the rest of us I'd vote for it in a shot (if you see what I mean).<br /><br />I shall not forget that those fuckers threatened us with a restarted terrorist war in Ireland, which makes them mega-hypocrites on the subject of wars of aggression.<br /><br />P.S Lest I forget, add Dublin to my little list.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-79731362852152175702022-04-11T15:34:00.275+01:002022-04-11T15:34:00.275+01:00One of the reasons why Russia (along with Belarus ...One of the reasons why Russia (along with Belarus and Ukraine) pulled the plug on the USSR is that they realised they were the ones having to bankroll the thing. (A bit like England being forced to bankroll the rest of the UK).<br /><br />Why on Earth would they want to take on the costs of subjugating and forcibly reintegrating Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, et al?<br /><br />It doesn't make any sense.<br /><br />What does make sense is clear red lines against any further aggression towards Russia, red lines which the West promptly and deliberately crossed.<br /><br />Ukraine has been shelling Donetsk and Luhansk (which contain millions of what Ukraine claim to be their own citizens) for the last 8 years. The response to Russia finally recognising they were independent of Ukraine was for Ukraine to double the rate of shelling. It wasn't Russia who started a "hot" war.<br /><br />And I see that Pakistan's refusal to toe the American line on Ukraine has caused the USA to attempt yet another "regime change". But the more times they do this, the more countries will choose to join a Chinese led alternative. The clowns in charge are doing permanent damage to our long term interests.<br />Wildgoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14884595915411975940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37044424501600960622022-04-11T15:11:46.233+01:002022-04-11T15:11:46.233+01:00Putin doesn't want NATO on his doorstep becaus...Putin doesn't want NATO on his doorstep because it's preventing him from reconquering Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc.<br /><br />I have no sympathy with people who want to be Presidents-for-Life and change their countries' constitutions to allow the unlimited power. <br /><br />Don Cox Don Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06339420519741253080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-4985144122781623982022-04-11T12:44:21.175+01:002022-04-11T12:44:21.175+01:00Aside from the energy scenario, I for one am findi...Aside from the energy scenario, I for one am finding the constant war coverage is becoming (dare I say it) tedious and it's so obvious we are being primed by the meeja for a prolonged campaign which we are being gaslit(gaslighted?) into joining. I don't remember any previous war being so estensively covered and such an emaphasis on the destruction and devastation and wall to wall sob stories.<br /><br />As far as I know it was/is as bad in Iraq/Syria/Libya and Yemen etc. War is always awful for anyone caught up in it and the effects are longlasting for several generations.<br /><br />Putin had warned for years he didn't want NATO on his doorstep and also Russians in the east had been subjected to 8 years of attacks from Romanian forces/militia groups/thugs. The US industrial-military complex needs wars to justify its existence and as a way of making money.<br /><br />People need to wake up and realise they are being played over and over again.Jannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-35739542599119608342022-04-11T10:11:43.017+01:002022-04-11T10:11:43.017+01:00I don't think Western politicians (or civil se...I don't think Western politicians (or civil servants to that matter, they are all cut from the same PPE cloth) have any idea the extent to which their countries are reliant on fossil fuel energy to create the wealth that keeps everyone housed, warm and fed. They are all so far up their own alimentary canals that they haven't a clue how close to societal collapse they would be if they pulled the plug. They have lived in a world of 'If I say it, that makes it true' for so long now they are completely divorced from any reality they don't like the look of. We have political class now who genuinely think men can become women, so the idea that they can switch off the fossil fuels and renewable energy will somehow magically save the day with a puff of rainbow unicorn farts is hardly any more unbelievable. Sobershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407417389022146963noreply@blogger.com