tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post8870680455019101760..comments2024-03-28T09:55:42.123+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Michael & Willie in clown competition; BA-RyanairCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-83405078944359925652009-07-09T10:25:30.671+01:002009-07-09T10:25:30.671+01:00Perhaps RyanAir has taken lessons from some third-...Perhaps RyanAir has taken lessons from some third-world train operators and sees it's future built on planes crammed full of peasants with chickens and goats jammed in the overhead lockers and a camping BBQ set up in the aisles cooking lunch.WobblyJimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-3755457350101775362009-07-08T00:28:53.693+01:002009-07-08T00:28:53.693+01:00Handy Hint. Fly with another carrier whose staff a...Handy Hint. Fly with another carrier whose staff are not threateneing to ruin your well earned Summer Holidays.<br /><br />Thomsonfly ( the fleet owned by Thomas Cook ) cut their staff by 15% 18 months ago in anticipation of this years problems, they are now short of cabin crew.bannedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02406037760273820029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-69109273946121653622009-07-07T20:15:38.240+01:002009-07-07T20:15:38.240+01:00Not sure I can see BA surviving the next 18 months...Not sure I can see BA surviving the next 18 months - as for Ryanair, dear god - everytime I read anything about O'Leary I'm put off flying with them. He's certainly aptly named, 'leery' describes my sentiments about Ryanair very well.<br /><br />Off on a tangent CU, what think you about <a href="" rel="nofollow">Sweden setting deposit rates into negative territory?</a>Eckersalldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683974531982922955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-31705010034209557882009-07-07T15:16:27.878+01:002009-07-07T15:16:27.878+01:00Both of them can stick it.Both of them can stick it.Barking Spiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968827142725464915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-16793839376489754762009-07-07T14:40:31.584+01:002009-07-07T14:40:31.584+01:00Neither.Neither.JPThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00796856414981086841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-30582758907576147172009-07-07T14:00:05.686+01:002009-07-07T14:00:05.686+01:00How serious do you consider the threat to be?How serious do you consider the threat to be?James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-70681624978309546372009-07-07T13:25:14.324+01:002009-07-07T13:25:14.324+01:00BA really doesn't need this industrial action ...BA really doesn't need this industrial action on top of the problems they face with T5 and so on. The unions seem keen to take BA down. I guess they believe that even if BA are taken out then the slots will be filled up by other airlines and the employees can't lose. They may be wrong. Times are hard and I can't see short-haul airlines jumping to take over those Heathrow slots when they need to compete with Bryanair and Sleazyjet. <br /><br />How Bryanair and Sleazyjet seem to have cornered the market in flights from tiny military airfields I don't know. Often I am flying out with these companies when Sleazyjet and Bryanair are the only airlines using those airfields. Often the airfields are in the middle of a city, not out in the middle of nowhere as some claim, and use the same airspace as everybody else. Why aren't the big guys taking them on in their own turf, instead of expecting to compete with them from Heathrow with a heavily unionised staff in a heavily unionised airport?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46833173749629450372009-07-07T13:18:31.765+01:002009-07-07T13:18:31.765+01:00OK to cover all the comments:
GWB put over $15 bi...OK to cover all the comments:<br /><br />GWB put over $15 billion into support the US airlines. They are all really nationalised and many have noted the collapse in service which has followed.<br /><br />Someof BA's problems are created by the fact that the US and EU heavily subsidise flag carriers and we don't, making long-haul very hard for BA. On short haul they just plain lose to ryanair and easyjet.<br /><br />Virgin is impacted in a similar way, which is why it is cutting transatlantic routes, not ones to SA or Dubai etc.<br /><br />BA staff IMHO are some of the last militants in the country and are about to get a huge wake up call. WW is trying to give this, but has missed the nuance of how to do so. The shares idea is a very good one, missing one month of his salary less so.<br /><br />In BA's defence WW and the execs get paid nothing like other FTSE100's. WW took home under £300k last year; there are juniors at hedge funds who get more without 40,000 staff to manage.<br /><br />I quite like BA service...oh how I miss the days of business class ot the far east when flat beds first came out. That was very comfy!CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-17879210072122860112009-07-07T12:05:27.884+01:002009-07-07T12:05:27.884+01:00I don't get the staff at BA. this sort of ind...I don't get the staff at BA. this sort of industrial action just drags the brand down that little bit further. the last thing they need is the Sky/Beeb cameras at T5 showing people sleeping in the terminal or getting het up at the poor bugger in the front line. Sorry to say it, but they're going to have to take some of the pain, trouble is, coming from WW on whatever million a year it must stick in the craw somewhat.<br />Perhaps anon is right. share options might incentivise all staff to pull in the same direction?<br /><br />LFAT, havent the US been propping up United and American for some time now? ive lost count either of those two have been mentioned in the same breath as chapter 11!roymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11040387761432476794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-87715104193829395862009-07-07T11:50:38.203+01:002009-07-07T11:50:38.203+01:00I don't understand why they don't take the...I don't understand why they don't take the obvious step of offering shares in lieu of salary. After all, you're effectively asking the staff to invest in the uncertain future of the company, so why not give them the same deal as any other speculative investor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-77934191599341387642009-07-07T11:27:22.591+01:002009-07-07T11:27:22.591+01:00Wasn't there a report the other day which said...Wasn't there a report the other day which said that BA pays its cabin staff twice as much as Virgin does?!<br /><br />If BA doesn't give itself a good shake-up today, it will be gone by tomorrow...Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-8769555877390063592009-07-07T09:50:35.083+01:002009-07-07T09:50:35.083+01:00I flew with British Airways just once. The staff a...I flew with British Airways just once. The staff all act as if they are a nationalised industry and if they keep thinking that way the the airline will go bust.<br /><br />I have been watching this company with great interest over the last 4/5 yearsken from glosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-34907798539510791682009-07-07T09:32:17.580+01:002009-07-07T09:32:17.580+01:00Plenty of pain left for BA, that's for sure. ...Plenty of pain left for BA, that's for sure. Then again, Virgin aren't exactly enjoying life at present and I daresay some US airlines might go under soon as well.<br /><br />I wonder if the Government can afford any more 'loans' / bailouts....Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.com