tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post9221954046655544176..comments2024-03-28T09:55:42.123+00:00Comments on Capitalists@Work: Net zero carbon in the North SeaCityUnslickerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-9802459992112735382020-12-17T16:11:26.314+00:002020-12-17T16:11:26.314+00:00I enjoyed the STEM comment, especially since I’m a...I enjoyed the STEM comment, especially since I’m a chartered engineer with over 40 years experience in industry.<br /><br />For the hard of thinking the hypothesis behind AGW since the 80s was that temperatures in the troposphere would go up. We can measure that. They haven’t. Therefore the theory is wrong, for reasons beautifully explained by Feynman.Sebastian Weetabixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-30605636278418171372020-12-17T11:24:22.916+00:002020-12-17T11:24:22.916+00:00@anon 11:28 - Maybe you didn't read the nature...@anon 11:28 - Maybe you didn't read the nature article, or you perhaps could do with a refresher on the birds and the bees?<br /><br />Rather difficult to octuple the population if sterility crashes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-23246417578278184292020-12-17T03:09:12.682+00:002020-12-17T03:09:12.682+00:00The key word in "net zero" is "net&...The key word in "net zero" is "net", because that means it's possible to have huge positive values in some areas as long as they are cancelled out - at least, according to the measurements used - by negatives elsewhere. That turns the whole thing into an exercise in creative accountancy, in which the politicians can fiddle with the metrics until they get whatever numbers they want at any given moment. It will make Enron look like amateurs.AndrewZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-30304649627724311192020-12-16T18:05:41.531+00:002020-12-16T18:05:41.531+00:00Simply that Drax is a pretty scandalous state of a...Simply that Drax is a pretty scandalous state of affairs, £1bn a year of public money for an outright scamNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-1363042564491901622020-12-16T17:36:16.523+00:002020-12-16T17:36:16.523+00:00Old BE said...
I don’t think anyone has ever said ...Old BE said...<br />I don’t think anyone has ever said that carbon dioxide is the only factor.<br /><br />12:16 pm<br />=======================================<br /><br />Did I really read that? Elby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37849759711593042782020-12-16T17:25:16.760+00:002020-12-16T17:25:16.760+00:00Excitement Intensifies... (in anticipation of furt...<b>Excitement Intensifies...</b> (in anticipation of further gory details)GridBothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232605116464071395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-25704095359565101342020-12-16T16:53:07.104+00:002020-12-16T16:53:07.104+00:00Drax ... hold my beer ...Drax ... <i><b>hold my beer</b></i> ...Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-69602567365854996382020-12-16T15:25:22.755+00:002020-12-16T15:25:22.755+00:00I think most people who look beyond the green wash...I think most people who look beyond the green wash understand that Drax is a con. <br /><br />And that there is nothing green or sustainable (other than for Drax's share holders) about the business model behind shipping wood from north America to incinerate in the UK, when there remain significant coal reserves in the local area.<br /><br />Unfortunately coal is out of favour with the populous and the politicians. So the energy has to come from somewhere to balance the grid!GridBothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232605116464071395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-48562533356027638232020-12-16T14:57:57.165+00:002020-12-16T14:57:57.165+00:00
I do not get how Drax can be net 0 by 2030 other ...<br />I do not get how Drax can be net 0 by 2030 other than shutting down.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311993288675111834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-9973625515874681532020-12-16T14:21:28.621+00:002020-12-16T14:21:28.621+00:00Since the climate has been changing for four and a...Since the climate has been changing for four and a half billion years, I'd start worrying if it stopped changing.<br />M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37301400041007995072020-12-16T12:16:43.706+00:002020-12-16T12:16:43.706+00:00I don’t think anyone has ever said that carbon dio...I don’t think anyone has ever said that carbon dioxide is the only factor.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-37321713098164096832020-12-16T12:14:45.176+00:002020-12-16T12:14:45.176+00:00Cloud modelling.
Here's the link I meant to i...Cloud modelling.<br /><br />Here's the link I meant to insert<br /><br /><br />https://notrickszone.com/2019/08/29/nasa-we-cant-model-clouds-so-climate-models-are-100-times-less-accurate-than-needed-for-projections/<br /><br />"NASA has conceded that climate models lack the precision required to make climate projections due to the inability to accurately model clouds. <br />Clouds have the capacity to dramatically influence climate changes in both radiative longwave (the “greenhouse effect”) and shortwave."<br /><br />Elby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-36755357149316939042020-12-16T12:03:33.486+00:002020-12-16T12:03:33.486+00:00Anonymous Anonymous said...
@sebastian weetabix
H...Anonymous Anonymous said...<br />@sebastian weetabix<br /><br />Haha ‘complete bollox’ I’m going to have a guess you didn’t score highly in the STEM subjects ?<br />Have you read any journals or papers on the subject ?<br />I’d post some links from NASA but I suspect you think the moon landings are fake and NASA is full of charlatans.<br />But coming back to your ‘complete bollox’ statement has that been peer reviewed. No YouTube commenters don’t count.<br /><br />10:00am<br />================================================<br /><br />OK. No YouTube, rather data from the ice cores - GISP2 in Greenland. Vostok in Antarctica. Both show the planet has been cooling for 7k years. Indeed, the current interstadial is following the same pattern which occurred in the three preceding interstadials. Being<br /><br />Rapid warming, followed by long term cooling, with intermittent warm periods, EACH being cooler than the preceding one. <br /><br />All a model does is this. Produce a projection entirely dependent on <br /><br />1. The initial state of the model (ie planetary climate in all its elements) and the value of the input parameters. This is why they are all wrong - a) matters such as solar activity are NOT even used in the models. History sh9ows solar activity, not CO2 controls climate (well, der... as my kids used to say). Also clouds are core to climate, and NASA are quite clear that their modelling of clouds is utterly useless.<br /><br /><br />https://notrickszone.com/2019/08/29/nasa-we-cant-model-clouds-so-climate-models-are-100-times-less-accurate-than-needed-for-projections/<br /><br />The main input parameter which makes the models so useless is ECS. Always wildly over-estimated, despite more and more peer-reviewed papers showing it to be quite low. Add to that that we are more or less at saturation point for heat radiation from C02 anyway.<br /><br />Here's an overview of the Holocene. BTW, we are already beyond the average duration of the preceding interstadials and it seems falling into a GSM which will most likely reduce temperatures. As per the LIA. <br /><br />https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/the-holocene-context-for-anthropogenic-global-warming-2/<br /><br />Facts mate matter. Models are useless and serve not science but politics. As I am sure you know, Ike warned about this happening in his farewell speech all those years ago. <br /><br />And if you want HUNDREDS of peer-reviewed papers stating that CAGW is beyond bollocks, hi thee to No Tricks Zone, and off you go. Report back to us in a few months when you have read 'em all.<br /><br /><br />https://notrickszone.com/?s=peer+review<br />Elby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-79893445894851298432020-12-16T11:50:28.846+00:002020-12-16T11:50:28.846+00:00E-K said...
Sorry to be thick.
But all the time C...E-K said...<br />Sorry to be thick.<br /><br />But all the time China is going big on coal it's all a bit futile and bound to result in lots of poor UK people voting for redistributive taxation.<br /><br />Arrange your affairs to cope with that.<br /><br />The Tories are going to be obliterated.<br /><br />10:15 pm<br />=================================================<br /><br />Not thick. Correct. I'll add India in as well.<br /><br />I'll also add that the likes of Bjorn Lomborg and co. have calculated that destroying the current energy setup of the West will reduce global average temperature (itself an UTTERLY meaningless figure - half the globe might be far too hot half far too cold, and the climate scientists would say all is well) by something like 0.002 degrees C.<br /><br />There ain't nothing like a friend,<br />Who can tell you you are pissing in the wind ... (Neil Young)<br /><br />On the matter of this "global mean temperature" I commend to you<br /><br />https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/12/08/co2-coalition-the-global-mean-temperature-anomaly-record-how-it-works-and-why-it-is-misleading/<br /><br />with special reference to the use of "anomaly<br /><br />Elby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-1321821927665046252020-12-16T11:28:19.909+00:002020-12-16T11:28:19.909+00:00I was doing some digging and discovered that betwe...I was doing some digging and discovered that between 2015 and 2019, China opened enough new coal-fired generators to power 250% of current UK electricity consumption. It makes our decarbonisation efforts somewhat moot.<br /><br />https://mashable.com/article/carbon-emissions-grow-2019-climate-change<br /><br />and as for Covid fixing global warming, someones not seen the World's Most Important Graph. And remember African per capita energy consumption is pretty low. Will it stay that way?<br /><br />https://twitter.com/steve_sailer/status/1105226110898384896<br /><br /><i>"The UN forecasts that the population of sub-Saharan Africa will octuple from 1990 to 2100."</i> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-91759562470919188762020-12-16T10:17:41.988+00:002020-12-16T10:17:41.988+00:00Anon- Jumping straight in with the ad-homs I see. ...Anon- Jumping straight in with the ad-homs I see. Better than having to construct an intelligent argument I suppose.<br /><br />I also assume that you're wondering why all these pacific islands aren't under water yet, or whether our kids will eve see snow in England again?<br />BlokeInBrumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-45855183272638397612020-12-16T10:15:21.603+00:002020-12-16T10:15:21.603+00:00There's a reasonable possibility covid will cu...There's a reasonable possibility covid will cure global warming - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-00604-5<br /><br />Needs more study work done, but covid probably increases the firing of blanks. If this is true of asymptomatic cases too, well, all that herd immunity and just shield the elderly stuff basically translates as may as well give most of the population the snip.<br /><br />IF this study pans out, could be looking at a real impact on the human population ongoing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-82972470827821561972020-12-16T10:00:56.626+00:002020-12-16T10:00:56.626+00:00@sebastian weetabix
Haha ‘complete bollox’ I’m ...@sebastian weetabix<br /><br />Haha ‘complete bollox’ I’m going to have a guess you didn’t score highly in the STEM subjects ?<br />Have you read any journals or papers on the subject ?<br />I’d post some links from NASA but I suspect you think the moon landings are fake and NASA is full of charlatans.<br />But coming back to your ‘complete bollox’ statement has that been peer reviewed. No YouTube commenters don’t count.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-36035063178738201282020-12-16T09:16:03.481+00:002020-12-16T09:16:03.481+00:00Hydrogen??! Jesus Christ. It’s completely mad. Eve...Hydrogen??! Jesus Christ. It’s completely mad. Every house would need a brand new heating system pressurised to 13,600 psi. It just isn’t realistic. Current piping won’t hold the hydrogen in.<br /><br />The real elephant in the room is the whole theory of anthropogenic global warming is complete bollocks. At some point the world needs to wake up and stop this shit.Sebastian Weetabixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-46301998018278058862020-12-15T23:10:10.524+00:002020-12-15T23:10:10.524+00:00The Tories always deserve to be obliterated. The ...The Tories always deserve to be obliterated. The trouble is, so do the Opposition.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-18068923124516663922020-12-15T22:15:48.410+00:002020-12-15T22:15:48.410+00:00Sorry to be thick.
But all the time China is goi...Sorry to be thick. <br /><br />But all the time China is going big on coal it's all a bit futile and bound to result in lots of poor UK people voting for redistributive taxation. <br /><br />Arrange your affairs to cope with that. <br /><br />The Tories are going to be obliterated. E-Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657071992016670517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-71459578287483527592020-12-15T20:30:42.942+00:002020-12-15T20:30:42.942+00:00I think you may have hit on the main problem there...I think you may have hit on the main problem there :)Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-4927028431925084162020-12-15T20:17:12.318+00:002020-12-15T20:17:12.318+00:00@old be
There is a simple chemical process that c...@old be <br />There is a simple chemical process that captures CO2. <br />Trees, lots of them..<br /><br />As the saying goes ‘the best time to plant a tree is ten years ago’Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-64897278110151790722020-12-15T18:32:18.784+00:002020-12-15T18:32:18.784+00:00Older readers will also remember the switchover to...Older readers will also remember the switchover to North Sea gas. Previous to that, homes had run on towns gas, which was mostly hydrogen (from coal) with some carbon monoxide.DJKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32841798.post-78803282290972415202020-12-15T18:25:02.444+00:002020-12-15T18:25:02.444+00:00Yes there have been some trials with mixing hydrog...Yes there have been some trials with mixing hydrogen into the natural gas pipes. All interesting stuffOld BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.com