Tuesday, 14 October 2025

Polly Toynbee: stopped clock, sometimes right

Something else I returned to was a Graun article by La Toynbee, which broadly makes a lot of sense. 

For baffling reasons, soon after the general election a government with a sky-high in-tray of problems embarked on a gigantic local council reorganisation no one knew about. It didn’t feature in the manifesto, nor in the local government secretary Steve Reed’s conference speech last week – but England has plans to axe unknown numbers of local councillors – some estimates put it at nearly 90%. The white paper outlining these plans actually boasts that there will be “fewer local politicians”, pandering disgracefully to the general scorn for politics ... For all the talk of localism and connecting to neighbourhoods, these are the unheralded foot soldiers of democracy. It is councillors who run political parties and much that binds their communities. Few people ever join political parties, yet the whole tottering democratic system relies entirely on those who do. Running the council and becoming a councillor is part of party members’ purpose and motivation. Abolishing so many will diminish democratic engagement over time

For once, she's right - it happens a couple of times per decade.  This is awful.  The "baffling reason", we must suppose, is Starmer's centralising tendency, coupled with his complete lack of political hinterland or general grass-roots experience.  

ND 


22 comments:

  1. Lord T5:44 pm

    I'd rather have a few thousand local councillors than 360+ in Westminster. Let's reduce the truly useless ones first.

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  2. dearieme9:17 pm

    "Starmer's centralising tendency" Sir Keir Stalin? Or more precisely another Merkel, dedicated to the memory of the USSR?

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  3. You would expect Pol Potty to idolise The Khiermer Rouge

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  4. I wonder if the situation in Surrey is instructive - Woking council is massively in debt, but forcing other local authorities in Surrey to merge with it would make the council tax payers in those areas responsible for paying off Woking's debts. Thus getting Rachel from Accounts off the hook for bailing out bankrupt councils.

    So is the reorganisation of Local Government just a thinly disguised way of making wealthier (and perhaps less profligate) areas pay for the spendthrift ones?

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    1. Anonymous8:46 am

      Nothing to do with council debt: it's all about removing opposition to building development by having mega councils with no sense of local identity.

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    2. Isn't it all about destroying the District Councils to pilfer their budgets for SEN and Social Care? My local districts are the only bit of the system which actually still works properly(ish), and co-incidentally the only part whose entire budget isn't now swallowed by taxi's for kids with ADHD and Social Care. I assumed the whole point was to effectively let the bankrupt County Councils pilfer the District's cash, these staving off their cries of "more money" for perhaps 18 months (which is an eternity if you're Reeves with two Budgets to deliver in between).

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  5. Anonymous9:56 am

    Abolishing so many will diminish democratic engagement over time........... what is this "democratic engagement" of which Lady Pol of Tuscany speaks ?

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    1. dearieme11:04 am

      That's just so unfair. Her mansion was in Umbria.

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  6. Couple of great suggestions there.

    Sobers - rings true as a SPAD-type "bright idea": but the resistance this would engender from local MPs of every stripe would be huge, and might be a serious barrier. What's worse, it might trigger demands for a 'jubilee' for the bankrupt councils

    anon @ 8:46 - that's a great observation: it would certainly be the result, de facto, even if it wasn't the guiding motive.

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  7. Peter MacFarlane10:43 am

    The actual councils (ie the elected members) are mostly decorative these days. Real power resides with, and is exercised by, the paid permanent officials, supervised from Whitehall. This suits the Starmerites perfectly, so it may as well be extended and solidified. Who needs elections anyway when nothing actually changes?

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    1. dearieme11:07 am

      An old friend used to sit on a local Planning Committee. She thought the members were pretty honest but the planning officers substantially corrupt.

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  8. Anonymous11:06 am

    They get in the way and say NO. Any councillor who values their job will say no to housing and/or drag their feet - otherwise come voting time they are out on their ear.

    There is some subtlety to this, the timing of decisions versus voting time - let the stink die down etc.

    Average Jack & Jill don't want extra housing - prices, schools, makes life worse. But your average farmer or landowner will flog 1000 acres for a housing estate and joyfully eff off somewhere warm and tax free, makes life better. Government of any stripe has to allow some housing else where are all the migrants going to go.

    Then we consider the making of Ministers and Think Tanks and Advisers. All supportive jobs beholden to the Prime Minister and tuned to say YES. So plenty more of them please.

    So there is a balance and any councillor who values their job will ease up on the 'NO' but plan for a bit of subtlety in the timing from central govt. Democracy - strictly for the birds.

    To the side, we used to have small builders - small plots, infill building. Cut right back to underground swimming pools and garages and loft conversions. Getting new planning - far too much trouble. Not worth it to the big boys for less than 200 houses. A gap in the market for Rachel to allow. Then there is the ratchet game - get permission for 20 and find an excuse that it can't happen for less than 40 - settle on 30 squeezed brick by jowl.

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  9. There's probably an element of Can't Lose Councillor By-elections If There Are No Councillors to it.

    They'll likely screw it up, and Starmer will end up with a small army of Burnham clones making his life a misery.

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  10. Anonymous5:59 pm

    I do some mild developing. The sort of place I need
    Is a quiet country market town that's rather run to seed
    A luncheon and a drink or two, a little savoir faire -
    I fix the Planning Officer, the Town Clerk and the Mayor.

    And if some Preservationist attempts to interfere
    A 'dangerous structure' notice from the Borough Engineer
    Will settle any buildings that are standing in our way -
    The modern style, sir, with respect, has really come to stay.

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  11. Hey, some more blog doggerel ! You can come again.

    ( http://www.cityunslicker.co.uk/search/label/doggerel )

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  12. Anonymous12:53 am

    John Betjeman, top doggerel

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  13. You have all forgotten one of Starmer's first commitments on taking office...


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/24/state-will-take-back-control-of-peoples-lives-says-starmer/

    I wrote to Starmer (Can't help myself) to note that the purpose of the state was in fact to serve US, not the other way round.

    No response. I guess for Rodney, "L'État, c'est moi"...

    Gentleman. If enough of us - and there are enough out there with c 3 million signing the petition - simply refuse the Digital ID, what will they do? Yes, it will require some balls. But our parents' generation who DID have the balls to take on totalitarian states will spin in their graves if we just sit they and go "Yes sir".

    I vow to thee my country, etc... no?

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  14. Anonymous12:29 pm

    May be already too late Elby:
    https://iaindavis.substack.com/p/the-britcard-psyop-what-is-true-digital

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    1. Well aware of that. Still, what will they do with 3 million refusing?

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  15. Anonymous8:11 am

    I wonder what problem this ID card idea is meant to solve.

    Perhaps no card - you get shackled to a hospital bed till the cops arrive. Triffic, but what happens then.

    Or swim ashore on Kent coast - no ID card - sorry mate, can't come in. As if.

    Perhaps is a fashion statement thing - everyone else has a card, we look tossers for not having one.

    Otherwise - useless to me and to you and not much use to HMG.

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    1. Control, control, control. And with someone as bent as Starmer, social credit scoring.

      Oddly, Trump (boo, hiss, boo) managed to stop an influx of 2 million migrants into the UK just like that. With no Digital ID cards.

      Again - Starmer is so bent, he thinks 1) that we are all thick as shit & therefore 2) we don't clock his pathological lying.

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