Saturday, 15 November 2025

BBC: despite outrages, needs fixing, not scrapping

Cards on the table: I am a big supporter of an idealised concept of what the BBC can be at its best.

But, boy, do they inflict damage on themselves.  The Panorama[1] / Trump thing is a journalistic outrage, as even hardened anti-Trump lefties with concern for the integrity of journalism agree.  The Panorama "anti-semitism in the Labour Party" is another.  Looks like they had (have?) a rogue LGBTIxyz unit of some kind, busily censoring their colleagues.  Their climate / energy offerings are often pure green-blob output.  Etc etc etc. 

And then you get the opposite: the Panorama in 2022 on Drax and its baleful Canadian operations was masterly, with long-running consequences that haven't fully played out yet.

Even thin-skinned Trump should recognise the soft power of the Beeb worldwide, and how many western interests it buttresses.  (Incidentally, what possible damages could he claim to have suffered?)  What would step into its shoes?  Domestically, maybe the better ITV and C4 documentaries.  But abroad?  Just commercial and/or dangerous fake-news dross from very unsavoury sources.  

But I'll end on another condemnatory anecdote, starting with "It was ever thus".  

Many, many years ago when I was heavily involved in local politics, myself and Mrs D were approached by Panorama to be interviewed on the subject of Child Benefit, on our very own sofa at home, as a representative middle-class married couple with school-aged children.  As the evening wore on and they kept asking us the same questions over and over, it became apparent they were hoping we'd express thus-and-such opinions.  But we didn't.  They were relentless, eventually telling us fairly precisely the words they wished to put into our mouths.  Well, we weren't having it; so the extensive footage they'd shot was entirely abortive.

But not the entire evening.  During a break, they asked us if we could put them in touch with other couples in the area, with different profiles to our own.  We mentioned two things: (1) a couple we were willing to sound out for them, who exactly fitted one of the profiles they wanted; and (2) quite separately and en passant, that there was a vantage point up the road from ourselves where some of the most expensive houses in London looked out across a valley, directly towards a huge and fairly rough council estate on the hill opposite.

So what happened?  When the programme aired, whilst Mr & Mrs D did not make an appearance, the other couple did.  And against the backdrop of a camera shot panning from a big house across to the council estate, the introductory voice-over asserted that this was the view from the couple's own front room.  Except that they didn't live anywhere near that vantage point ...  a complete BBC confection.  Shameless, and deeply unprofessional stuff: but I'm sure someone who'd misinterpreted John Birt's "mission to explain"[2] just loved it.     

They shoot themselves in the foot, so many times.  And it seems they just can't help it.  My supportive view of an idealised BBC is, ahem, very idealised indeed.

ND

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[1] It's worth noting that 'Panorama' is as much a banner than a BBC department.  Individual programmes they broadcast under that label are generally made by an ad hoc team of independent reporters / researchers assembled for a single programme.

[2] A renowned journo of my acquaintance who'd worked at the Beeb in this era told me how it worked.  Birt's 'MtE' approach was: (a) first, researchers would do a load of rigorous research & analysis on some tricky topic; (b) they'd reach their conclusions on how the issues were to be understood and explained; (c) they'd go out into the world and find interviewees etc to "illustrate" what they'd concluded, creating an explanatory narrative.

How this worked in practice was:  a bunch of people - generally lefties - who had no genuine expertise on the topic, would sit at their desks discussing and arguing for weeks, with a few facts and opinions thrown in.  They'd reach their conclusions essentially a priori from their baleful assumptions and leftist worldview, and write their narrative.  They'd then set out to find and interview (and of course put words into the mouths of) people that were selected as archetypes, often outright caricatures, of the various viewpoints featuring in their narrative, in order to bring it alive for a TV audience.  Then air the programme.

Little or nothing of this process represented genuine, open-minded journalistic research, and at worst was the kind of pre-ordained confection we still see in such outrages as the Trump speech-splicing episode. 

21 comments:

Matt said...

Seeing as the BBC is total infested by the Leftist Wokerati, how exactly do you fix it? Sack all of them and start again?

Anonymous said...

'...dangerous fake-news dross from very unsavoury sources.' An excellent description of BBC output as delivered here in South America.

Anonymous said...

Like you Nick, I hope we can get back to the BBC of yesteryear and it will be a sad day if we lose the BBC. Unless there is a clear out of the metropolitans though I'm not sure it's possible.

It is the only news output which could be truly impartial and which is what it used to be in my youth. I'm not sure how this will be accomplished. Even R4 has been infiltrated by the wokerati.

Anonymous said...

Still like the shipping forecast. Get rid of the rest.
M.

Sackerson said...

I read that under Florida law it is not necessary to prove the extent of damage caused by defamation.

Old Git Carlisle said...

Thinking back as long as I was conscious of homosexuality. I felt that BBC was 'rolling pitch '
for change in public view of practice. Recall the airing of much camp material particularly with comedy. Use of the strange use of something called like (poaly****) dialect. We used to pull one another's legs by using the associated phases and accent. I am now 87 year old !!!

Nick Drew said...

That's 'Polari', OGC.

And that is the hallowed 'Round the Horn' you are referring to!

Just so long as it was only one another's legs ... (ooh, bold !)

Old git Carlisle said...

Good job I am not Trump or I might seek damages.
By the way who can get his blood sample??

Anonymous said...

"I hope we can get back to the BBC of yesteryear"

The BBC of yesteryear was just as biased as it is today, we just didn't have the internet then to show us how biased it was.

Raze it to the ground and sow the soil with salt. Nothing good will ever come from it, because it will always be a poisonous pit of socialists.

Sobers said...

Someone told the story recently of how Michael Wharton (he of Peter Simple fame) used to do some work in the BBC after the war, and came upon some work colleagues sat in a pub staring morosely into their beer, and upon asking why the long faces was told 'Haven't you heard, Stalin's died'. The BBC has always been socialist, always will be. Time to take it out and give it Stalin's 9mm solution.

Nick Drew said...

Well, and of course Orwell modelled the Ministry of Truth on the Beeb. And Room 101 !

dearieme said...

Bah humbug. Send every licence-holder a share certificate and tell 'em to decide themselves whom to sell it to.

AndrewZ said...

Nick, what exactly does the BBC do to support Western interests? It's the megaphone of the metropolitan chattering classes, promoting all of their idiotic, destructive, ideological fantasies. What benefit do we gain from that?

It's also beyond reform, because there's no way to change the institutional culture without replacing most of the staff, which isn't really practical. Abolish it and sell all its assets - including the rights to popular shows - to the private sector.

Nick Drew said...

At its best, it is one of very few highly accessible, reasonably accurate news sources to parts of the word where, if you think the Beeb is biased, you ain't seen nothing like their main local sources. It's a colossal form of soft power, emulated as best they can by French / German / Italian channels having a fraction of the credibility & reach. Russia tries too! But it's laughable - and laughed at. I might add: at its (very restricted) best, Al Jazeera puts out some good stuff too, with good reach.

If you take the entire opus of (e.g.) what the Beeb has online, it's not difficult to pick out that smallish proportion that is clearly subject to the outrageous woke imprint that we all rightly rail against, and what is actually very balanced & informative.

So much hostility to the Beeb is naked, blatant, utterly transparent commercial self-interest by the Murdochs of this world who care not a fig for anything except money, and political influence as a route to more money.

How to fix? A very strong & determined DG with the right instincts, and political top-cover. Almost all human beings finding themselves operating within a strong & confident framework will ultimately - in fact, quite quickly - do what they are told, provided it's a clear & coherent instruction (ideally with a rationale), consistently communicated & enforced. Whole mutinous regiments of armed men have been turned around by strong new leadership.

The 0.5% of outright Beeb wokerati, willfully pursuing a subversive Gramscian agenda, need to be identified and fired (after due process, natch).

The issue is political top-cover (absence of)

BlokeInBrum said...

0.5% - you're having a larf ND.
The Beeb is riven through with paedos and wokerati like a stick of rock. It's not a new phenomenon either. The institution is beyond salvaging.

A new generation, raised on Youtube, TikTok and social media is coming through and they will have no truck with the garbage that the BBC produces.

Every aspect of every program pushes a woke agenda, from blacks in historical dramas, to ever present gays and lesbians shoe horned into every program. Just look how they have destroyed Dr. Who.

Just as relevant is what they don't show or cover. Where's Benny Hill on our screens today, one of the Beebs most popular exports? Or why cant we watch Roy Chubby Brown? It's very conspicuous what the BBC chooses to cover and what it chooses to ignore.

As for so called `soft power`, at one time it was backed up with actual power and influence. That rings hollow in todays world. The only thing saving us from being a total joke are that other countries are racing us to become third world.

Good job BBC news comes in pidgin english versions.

Stick a fork in it, it's done.

Sobers said...

"The 0.5% of outright Beeb wokerati, willfully pursuing a subversive Gramscian agenda, need to be identified and fired (after due process, natch)."

0.5%? Are you serious? All its output is woke. Every program has to have the usual mixed race families, and 'diverse' presenters. Look at Test Match Special. Totally ruined by a bunch of women commentators who haven't ever played at a level above that which I did in amateur club cricket. They know nothing about the professional mens game, and how its played, so why are they sat there pontificating about it?

Nick Drew said...

Guys, there just aren't very many "wokerati, willfully pursuing a subversive Gramscian agenda" which is what I wrote - meaning, outright subversive movers and shakers: leaders, if you like. I grant you there are many more woke-ish sheep following their lead, and many more than that just keeping their heads down and going with the flow.

But in no walk of life, anywhere, are there more than a handful of genuine, politically motivated, irredeemable trouble-makers.

Sobers said...

"Guys, there just aren't very many "wokerati, willfully pursuing a subversive Gramscian agenda" which is what I wrote - meaning, outright subversive movers and shakers: leaders, if you like. I grant you there are many more woke-ish sheep following their lead, and many more than that just keeping their heads down and going with the flow."

Its not even that there are any massive great 'leaders' of this stuff, who you could just defenestrate and everything would be OK. The Woke and the Left is through the BBC like a stick of rock. You could replace all the senior management with Tories (which these days means almost as woke and leftist as the next blue haired trans supporter) and the BBC would still be biased because every single one of them is drawn from the same well.
The only way it could be reformed is if it was forced by statute to employ equal numbers of people from every political viewpoint. And that isn't going to happen.

Its always been a hateful pit of Leftism, and always will be.

dearieme said...

Orwell had its number. And that number was 1984.

BlokeInBrum said...

What was the phrase?
"Quantity has a quality all its own."

Anonymous said...

Except in politics.