Monday 6 December 2021

Life comes at you fast - perhaps we should quickly open the borders now to welcome Omicron?

 The potential was always there. Nature, with its heartless wisdom, always wants success. For a virus, this means more virus. Dead hosts are neither here nor there, what is being looked for is more virus. 

So, all things being equal, less dead hosts and more virus is a better outcome for Nature. 

I noticed one of the comments on the last thread saying there had been no deaths from Omicron - what a terrible scrooge. According to City AM, there are not even any hospitalisations in South Africa. 

So if this turns out to be true, the best thing the world can do is quickly make sure that Omicron out-performs Delta and all other COVID variants. It should mean a kind of global measles-party.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out for Governments if this is the case, for once, our rather rubbish Government tends to be very right about what to do re Covid - after its initially bad response, it has basically been amongst the best. 

Some of our friends in the EU are though haphazard and ineffective and plenty of the world is ruled by the kind of people who just love this for the power trip (see Burma, charging Aung San Suu-Kyi with breaking Covid rules, by waving to a crowd, in order to send her to gaol forever) and will not let it go so easily.

Of course, this is likely wildly optimistic, but medical reality hitting entrenched bureaucracies systems and social media conditioning will be interesting to watch, 


dearieme said...

Let's hope so. On t'other hand, Niall Ferguson (the historian not the Astrologer Royal) fears that the variant will attack children.

I don't suppose Niall knows anything much about viruses, which means he knows much more than Neil.

E-K said...
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E-K said...

I'm afraid that there are too many people with vested interests in lockdown. They love it. The Tory hating unions, the power mad politicians, service providers that are shit at what they do and now have something to blame, the tax addicted, the working from home brigade who just do not want to go back to the office...

The Sturgeon tail is about to wag the Johnson dog again and Christmas lockdown is coming.

Covid is a Marxist's wet dream come true.

Nearly two years on, not one, not two but THREE jabs and zero deaths still not good enough.

Zero Covid. Why ? Because Marxists full well know it's impossible. It means they get all the power even when they lose all the votes.

E-K said...

Sage has all but declared that we have at least 5 years of this to go.

Anonymous said...

For a bureaucracy , this means more bureaucracy Failing hosts are neither here nor there, what is being looked for is more EU.

hovis said...

CU you are correct in that Omicron is nothing to be feared and we should all go back to normal.

However your optimism is misplaced. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns, "vaccine" passports, data manipulation, corruption and a dystopia far bigger than most would have imagined 3 years ago will continue to grow. We are in lockstep with the EU, only the pace is slower so as not to make sure the frog get boiled.

Conspiracy - yes certainly, a criminal conspiracy one. At a minimum, if similar rules to those requiring that judges need to be recuse themselves for even perceived conflict of interest, were to apply to the medico-power nexus, then none of them (JCVI, MHRA, SAGE, Whitty, Van Tam and much of the govt.) would be anywhere near power. That is before we get onto the real corruption

And people wonder where "trust" has gone ...

hovis said...

E-K - make that three jabs and counting, I am sure it will be four five and six. After all no one has an old fashioned thing like an immune system.

What has the govt-medico-profit complex got to lose - no need to worry about dead kids, or young adults - no liability after all.

iOpener said...

isAllWell=Omicron===CowPox ? Great : Null;


Elby the Beserk said...

Jo Nova, who usually blogs on the climate loonies, has put up many posts on Covid

Here's the latest

Still a grand total of ZERO deaths worldwide from this horrifying mutation that threatens to end life on the planet. Or something like that.

Just say NO.

Elby the Beserk said...

And this Lancet paper makes it quite clear that the vaccines do nothing to stop the spread of Covid. Brilliant. Fantastic.

"High COVID-19 vaccination rates were expected to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in populations by reducing the number of possible sources for transmission and thereby to reduce the burden of COVID-19 disease. Recent data, however, indicate that the epidemiological relevance of COVID-19 vaccinated individuals is increaseng. In the UK it was described that secondary attack rates among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% for vaccinated vs 23% for unvaccinated). 12 of 31 infections in fully vaccinated household contacts (39%) arose from fully vaccinated epidemiologically linked index cases. Peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status or variant type [[1]]. In Germany, the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 cases among the fully vaccinated (“breakthrough infections”) is reported weekly since 21. July 2021 and was 16.9% at that time among patients of 60 years and older [[2]]. This proportion is increasing week by week and was 58.9% on 27. October 2021 (Figure 1) providing clear evidence of the increasing relevance of the fully vaccinated as a possible source of transmission. A similar situation was described for the UK"

Referenced from the ever excellent TCW

The more jabbing the more variants we will see. Many epidemiologists of note have stated this. All ignored and suppressed for being off message.

We all need to get off message pronto.

The current heroine of Lilith Towers is this fine old Northern lady who tells it like it is.

As the presenter notes, how the BBC let this one slip through their endless Covid hysteria, God knows.

Anonymous said...

If one of the current theories plays out that the origins of Omicron is from a HIV infected immunocompromised person, then maybe we should be thanking HIV for hopefully bringing the Covid scare to an end.
(Although for the reasons mentioned above, unlikely to happen as too many are too invested in keeping the charade going)

Anonymous said...

Remembering also that for Pharma there is no money in cures, only in treatments.

Finding it hard to identify who is the real enemy, since it appears multifarious. This Bournbrook article may provide one of the clues.

E-K said...

Elby - I thought the point of the vaccine was to mitigate the illness, not to make it less contagious.

One thing you simply cannot deny is that the majority of those hospitalised with Covid 19 Delta are unvaccinated - and that a significant number of those who were vaccinated should have been put under focused shielding.

For this all of us are paying a dear price.

My own view (something which goes unreported) is that a significant proportion of refuseniks are BAME and that - to paraphrase a Christmas song - It's begi-nning to look a-lot like ra-cism.

Someone has got Boris over a barrel facing forwards with his pants down.

E-K said...

Anon 12.50

Good diet, moderate exercise, limited vices.

If pharma could put the results of that in a bottle they could charge thousands for it.

The good news ? The best treatment for most is absolutely free.

The bad news ? It takes too much effort.

And THAT is the root problem facing the NHS at the moment. Vast amounts of resources are spent covering up symptoms rather than tough-love cures.

dearieme said...

"One thing you simply cannot deny is that the majority of those hospitalised with Covid 19 Delta are unvaccinated"

I don't see why it can't be denied. After all, who is there who publishes data honestly and competently? And it's data I want: I'm not going to take the word of some NHS drama queen who just wants to appear on the telly.

If you have a reliable source please do supply a link.

jim said...

A fair number seem to claim(hope) the Omicron will do for the Covid. Based on no evidence, just a few straws in the wind. Right now Germany and France and the US are on an upswing death-wise. The UK is flatlining as is India.

If I were a money-man I would encourage a sod-it approach. What's a few grannies. Also I would restrict hospital admissions - sod off and take an aspirin or call the undertaker. Snag is that Boris is a politician and while he might very much like to say sod it, he and his mates want to get re elected. And that virus might just as likely upswing in the next week or two.

This pandemic is turning into a social management problem. In past times medical expertise was limited and information flows slow, unreliable and possible to conceal. People got used to stepping over corpses and shrugged at the Will of God. Plague was democratic and in the end self-solving.

But now we have Facebook etc and 100 million or more pseudo-experts. This virus is likely to be a self solving problem - if you pay the price. Snag is we don't know what that price is, not you, not me and not Boris. Even the Telegraph might turn a bit ratty if things go badly. Anyone for a career limiting gamble? Things were so much simpler in 1666.

Elby the Beserk said...

E-K said...
Elby - I thought the point of the vaccine was to mitigate the illness, not to make it less contagious.
Well, EK, till Covid, the point of vaccines was to STOP you getting whatever disease. Worth noting that the CDC has twice changed their definition of "vaccine" since Covid.

Not that this wretched jab stopped you getting it again or passing it on. Sure it may have saved some lives/lessened some symptoms, but is it worth the wretched toll of damage?

E-K said...

Dearieme - Correct. I was quoting NHS anecdotal information but reliable data shows that around 40% of patients are unvaccinated, which is over representative seeing as most people have had the vaccine.

Most of the remaining who are ill despite vaccination will be old and probably over the average age of death.

E-K said...

Elby - What else do we call the vaccine then ? The flu vaccination is given every year and that doesn't always do its job - there is a certain amount of guesswork as to which mutation to vaccinate against.

Fact us that the Covid death rate has dropped off a cliff since the vaccination programme and those without the vaccination are getting seriously ill in stubbornly high proportions.

It is also the case that a significantly larger number of young people hospitalised with this disease are unvaccinated against those not and also that they are the most likely to contract Covid in the first place.

Anonymous said...

I'm having a difficulty here with some of the labels being used.

What is the difference between "marxists" and this current batch of politicians both 'left' and 'right'.

Fun fact: The Black Death which ravaged Europe arrived in England in 1348 and the last outbreak was 1666. We seem to be doing a bit better but there is a long way to go.

Anonymous said...

Back to reality - French 1-year forward electricity jumps to a record high of almost €200 per MWh.

Those prices offered on new nuclear starting to look out of kilter.

Elby the Beserk said...

E-K said...
Elby - What else do we call the vaccine then ? The flu vaccination is given every year and that doesn't always do its job - there is a certain amount of guesswork as to which mutation to vaccinate against.
Social media is calling bluff on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for modifying its definition of the words “vaccine” and “vaccination” on its website. Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.” The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

Read more at:

And here's the gen on the three different types of Covid "vaccines".

Elby the Beserk said...

Blogger E-K said...

Fact us that the Covid death rate has dropped off a cliff since the vaccination programme and those without the vaccination are getting seriously ill in stubbornly high proportions.

Depends who you listen to, EK. No bad news permeates the MSM whatsoever, you know, shit like this

"More than 500 residents in Oregon have now died of COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus as health officials continue to report over 2,000 new infections daily.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, health authorities in Oregon have recorded a total of 552 breakthrough COVID-19 deaths throughout the state.

Of the total number of deaths, 273 people had been fully vaccinated with the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. At least 144 received the Moderna vaccine and 78 were given the Johnson & Johnson shots, according to data from the Oregon Health Authority."

Elby the Beserk said...

That said, some bad news does permeate the MSM, who resolutely refuse to link anything that should not be happening to the jab, despite the fact that here, in Europe and the USA, deaths and ADRs number more than ALL previous vaccines.

Way to go, Pfeizer! (Recipient of the largest fine in Pharma history for mis-selling a drug).

Pfeizer's own trials - lots of cardiac shit

Meanwhile the U.K. Gov buy £3 billion quids worth of anticoagulants 3x more than usual to treat expected increase in blood clots.

Und so weiter...

Nothing to do with the jab. Move along there please

dearieme said...

"reliable data shows that around 40% of patients are unvaccinated": hard to believe, since the unvaccinated are disproportionately young. Do you have a link to offer?

Suff said...

I’m with you on most things
Elby - I thought the point of the vaccine was to mitigate the illness, not to make it less contagious. Then what’s the point in jab passes?Weren’t we told that the old means of getting back to normal was to take the shots, as this was the ONLY way to reach herd immunity.

“ Fact us that the Covid death rate has dropped off a cliff since the vaccination programme and those without the vaccination are getting seriously ill in stubbornly high proportions. ”What about India that wasn’t stopped with jabs. Why hasn’t it bee eradicated in Gibraltar or Israel Looking at the charts it could be argued that it was intro of the jab that created the entire second wave. I’m not saying that but there’s too much bullshit being spouted from the official side and an absolute shutting down of the scientific method. There’s too many previously respected scientists and doctors having their career destroyed for simply questioning the narrative. What. Do find objectionable is the second part of your statement. There is currently a drive in the media to split the nation and blame everything on the unjabbed. “ if only the unjabbed would stop being selfish and take the the shot, then life could return to normal. Remeber the hardest part of three weeks to flatten the curve and save the NHS is the the first 18 months.
I’m unjabbed I’m not refusing for some selfish self preservation. I’m doing it because I believe in the scientific method. Im no expert in medicine but as an engineer I understand statistics and testing and results and I understand when I’m being fed bullshit. I can’t add to the science but I can do my bit by adding to the test. I’m 56 with no children or responsibilities. I can afford to take the risk and to be honest if this is the new normal, I don’t want to be here. For every experiment there has to be a baseline or a control group. The “unvaxed are that control group”. Without them we don’t know whether the vaccine even works or makes the situation worse never mind whether it’s safe because we have nothing to compare it to and due to the low mortality of the virus we need large numbers in the control group to be able to calculate any significant characteristics. Without the unvaxed this will never end as any side effect can be blamed on a new mutation and another round of shots

Suff said...

Having read that back I apologize for all the grammatical errors. Old eyes and alcohol:-)

Elby the Beserk said...

Suff said...

Yup. I too am a member of a control group, without which any such "scientific" research is in invalid.

So fuckface is shutting us down again, on the basis if a variation which so far has yielded NO deaths and NO hospitalisations. Clearly he has a taste for it now.

We can either submit or say fuck right off (yes, I've had enough). I say - fuck right off. I will see my family over Christmas. I will wear no mask - OR exemption badge. I will NOT comply.

How the hell did we end up here?

E-K said...


I believe it should be everyone's prerogative not to take the vaccine, without rancour or sanction.


You are right. Elby too.

Anonymous said...

Last year if you wanted a Christmas party you had to claim it was a work meeting. This year, if you want to have a work meeting you have to claim it’s a Christmas party.

So if you elect a clown - you get a circus.

Anonymous said...

England has been the control group since July in the societal experiment of whether masks and vaccine passports make a difference.

Looking at the data from the government, there is nothing to suggest they make a difference in reducing spread.

It's also clear from the data that the vaccines don't stop vaccinated people spreading covid (which is a pointless aim anyway)

The government must know this. The "experts" must know this. The media must know this.

Yet here we are putting in more mask mandates, vaccine passports and having a national discussion around mandatory vaccination. With our journalists only able to ask why we aren't doing more already. (Which is obvious at this point, the preferred technique of nudging only works when you nudge, our journalists aren't being patient enough).

The choice is either cock-up or conspiracy, it's getting harder and harder to attribute to cock-up when the conspiracy theorists keep getting proved right!

lilith said...

The ONS suggests that the vaccinated aged between 10 and 60 are suffering more than twice the all cause mortality than the unvaccinated aged between 10 and 60. Something like 5 in 100,000 as opposed to 1 or 2 in 100,000. I'm not clear it is entirely benign or desirable. I used to think I'd have it once the trials were over. Now they'd have to strap me down, Mengele style.

Jan said...

I'm also part of the control group and I too will not "take the vaccine" and will have to be held down if they go that far. I'm prepared for fines/jail too if necessary.

I intend to remain a "pureblood" for as long as possible.

lilith said...

Yes, good luck to them getting fines paid....Holloway here I come.

Darwin Awards 2022 said...

Is this a mass entry for the Darwin Awards 2022? Look forward to hearing about it.

The 2021 Awards are being voted on here.

lilith said...

T Cells and Covid

Elby the Beserk said...

Vit D & Covid

Vitamin D Insufficiency May Account for Almost Nine of Ten COVID-19 Deaths: Time to Act. Comment on: "Vitamin D Deficiency and Outcome of COVID-19 Patients". Nutrients 2020, 12, 2757

It's criminal we weren't all told to supp Vit D & Zinc

hovis said...

How very droll - Mr/Ms Darwin Awards obviously can't count very well and doesn't understand individual autonomy and has never read a scientific paper in it's life.

I do find it amusing to see others claim some form of mental superiority having taken an experimental treatment in which the producers misrepresented data and it's adverse effects. It appears if you are not told about something, it doesn't exist.